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ConnectionPilot 07-15-2012 10:03 PM

Leaving 9E for G7 or OO?
 
I'm currently a pilot at 9E waiting to see mgmt's hand like everyone else. My job is safe at the moment but if we lose 50 seaters (100% chance), then I'll be gone in a years time. I'm looking at both SkyWest and GoJets, which are obviously two totally different airlines. With upgrade out of sight at OO and right now 2 years at G7, should I take QOL or chance at upgrade? I'd have to commute for both. Wanting thoughts. Can't wait hear the flame lol.

Systemized 07-15-2012 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot (Post 1230482)
I'm currently a pilot at 9E waiting to see mgmt's hand like everyone else. My job is safe at the moment but if we lose 50 seaters (100% chance), then I'll be gone in a years time. I'm looking at both SkyWest and GoJets, which are obviously two totally different airlines. With upgrade out of sight at OO and right now 2 years at G7, should I take QOL or chance at upgrade? I'd have to commute for both. Wanting thoughts. Can't wait hear the flame lol.

My money is on GoJetsss getting DCI 900s (old 9E/OH birds) and flying them under their current pays rates while not seeing a new contract for at least another eight years.

ShyGuy 07-15-2012 10:32 PM

GoJets. Skywest is going to lose some too from Delta. Not as many as a BK carrier like 9E, but still. Forget the GoJets slams. GoJets isn't doing anything today that another regional didn't already do in the past (re: expansion at a cost of another airline's flying). A regional is a regional is a regional. Do you really want another 5 years as a FO? A decade on RJ FO pay isn't what this career was designed to be. Why put yourself in that position again?

ShyGuy 07-15-2012 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Systemized (Post 1230489)
My money is on GoJetsss getting DCI 900s (old 9E/OH birds) and flying them under their current pays rates while not seeing a new contract for at least another eight years.

He already works at a regional where they never saw a new contract until 6 years after the amendable date.

FlyingKat 07-16-2012 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot (Post 1230482)
I'm currently a pilot at 9E waiting to see mgmt's hand like everyone else. My job is safe at the moment but if we lose 50 seaters (100% chance), then I'll be gone in a years time. I'm looking at both SkyWest and GoJets, which are obviously two totally different airlines. With upgrade out of sight at OO and right now 2 years at G7, should I take QOL or chance at upgrade? I'd have to commute for both. Wanting thoughts. Can't wait hear the flame lol.

Nothing is guaranteed at a regional. Gojet is getting contracts right now due to low costs. But things change very quickly in this business. Skywest is the better regional in terms of QOL and the company, but so were Comair, ACA, and Mesaba in their day. Its a crap shoot. Decide what is best for you and go there.

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selcal 07-16-2012 03:38 AM

I'd be surprised if gojets gets any 7/900's. I think Delta will use the 7/900's to do trades with the carriers that have the 200's. SKYW, XJT, and PNCL.

Gearswinger 07-16-2012 04:40 AM

I'm in the same place as you. The conclusion I've come to is that it is all the same, everyone is going to lose flying either from D pulling 200s or asshat contracts negotiated below cost dragging the company to bankruptcy (Colgan and the ATL 900s undercut to get flying that way and killed Pinnacle, I'd bet the Gojet is also losing money behind all the smoke and mirrors). May as well chase the upgrade and fly a shiny 700, just don't be too shocked if something happens and it all stops.

Geardownflaps30 07-16-2012 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot (Post 1230482)
I'm currently a pilot at 9E waiting to see mgmt's hand like everyone else. My job is safe at the moment but if we lose 50 seaters (100% chance), then I'll be gone in a years time. I'm looking at both SkyWest and GoJets, which are obviously two totally different airlines. With upgrade out of sight at OO and right now 2 years at G7, should I take QOL or chance at upgrade? I'd have to commute for both. Wanting thoughts. Can't wait hear the flame lol.

Ummm. Don't you have to interview first, receive a job offer/class date and then make a decision??

Apply & interview everywhere and anywhere you want. Then after job offers roll in its time to narrow your choices.

Or am I being "obtuse"?

(or insolent?)

Besides, what do you have to "loose"?!

MunkyButtr 07-16-2012 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1230490)
GoJets. Skywest is going to lose some too from Delta. Not as many as a BK carrier like 9E, but still. Forget the GoJets slams. GoJets isn't doing anything today that another regional didn't already do in the past (re: expansion at a cost of another airline's flying). A regional is a regional is a regional. Do you really want another 5 years as a FO? A decade on RJ FO pay isn't what this career was designed to be. Why put yourself in that position again?

Not picking a fight, but what other airline was started with the sole purpose of circumventing a pilot contract? We all know DCI flying changes hands all the time, but none of the DCI carriers sole existance is based on avoiding a contract. I think deep down people are trying to justify going there in their own minds. Do whatever you want, everyone is well aware of the potential consequences and rewards.

hockeypilot44 07-16-2012 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 (Post 1230541)
Ummm. Don't you have to interview first, receive a job offer/class date and then make a decision??

Apply & interview everywhere and anywhere you want. Then after job offers roll in its time to narrow your choices.

Or am I being "obtuse"?

(or insolent?)

Besides, what do you have to "loose"?!

He already flies for a regional. If he turns his application in, these airlines will probably both give him interviews immediately. They will probably both hire him as well. There are not a whole lot of pilots out there willing to work for so little money that are actually qualified for these jobs. By qualified, I mean meeting ATP minimums.


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