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cbxmike 07-24-2012 05:12 AM

Got Bumped off of American Eagle J/S twice
 
Beware: Just FYI for all those possibly looking to JS on Eagle through MIA to any of the Island destinations. The Eagle agents specifically in Treasure Cay Bahamas TCB as well as Marsh Harbor Bahamas MHH believe that only "one" pilot / crew member are allowed at anytime in the cabin. They have no concept of pilot "Flow Through" or how to input a pilots electronically reserved "D6U" category. On both flights I was bumped, there were plenty of empty seats in the back. On one occasion, I was bumped for a USAir FLIGHT ATTENDANT who showed up ahead of me.

The Island agents have plenty of attitude and do not want to hear anything from you. If you ask questions or try to explain the "Flow Through" that reciprocates between your airline and theirs, you get the deer in the headlights look and are simply denied. Problem is, some of these flights are limited to one per day, and getting to work can be a problem.

I have contacted ALPA as well as some Eagle officials, but have not been able to fix the problem where the rubber meets the road; that is, at the gates in MHH and TCB. Everyone else off the Island agrees that this is incorrect. So far, no fix though.

On one occasion, I was almost bumped in MIA as well for the very same reason (another aircrew member showed up ahead of me)but demanded to speak to a supervisor who typed furiously for 10mins trying to input my D6U code. I was finally raced out to the plane with moments to spare.

RJ Pilot 07-24-2012 06:08 AM

Explain the "Flow Through" jumpseat concept.

Errbus 07-24-2012 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1234488)
Explain the "Flow Through" jumpseat concept.

You ride rj jumpseats for a while until mainline jumpseats become available and you're automatically guaranteed one in seniority order, no requirement to list.

RJ Pilot 07-24-2012 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Errbus (Post 1234491)
You ride rj jumpseats for a while until mainline jumpseats become available and you're automatically guaranteed one in seniority order, no requirement to list.

LOL'd. To the OP. Im guessing you are new to this "business". Maybe weigh was an issue in your case. My advice to you is talk to the crew,preferably the captain, and let him or her know you are there. Agents are clueless.

myoface 07-24-2012 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by cbxmike (Post 1234465)
Beware: Just FYI for all those possibly looking to JS on Eagle through MIA to any of the Island destinations. The Eagle agents specifically in Treasure Cay Bahamas TCB as well as Marsh Harbor Bahamas MHH believe that only "one" pilot / crew member are allowed at anytime in the cabin. They have no concept of pilot "Flow Through" or how to input a pilots electronically reserved "D6U" category. On both flights I was bumped, there were plenty of empty seats in the back. On one occasion, I was bumped for a USAir FLIGHT ATTENDANT who showed up ahead of me.

The Island agents have plenty of attitude and do not want to hear anything from you. If you ask questions or try to explain the "Flow Through" that reciprocates between your airline and theirs, you get the deer in the headlights look and are simply denied. Problem is, some of these flights are limited to one per day, and getting to work can be a problem.

I have contacted ALPA as well as some Eagle officials, but have not been able to fix the problem where the rubber meets the road; that is, at the gates in MHH and TCB. Everyone else off the Island agrees that this is incorrect. So far, no fix though.

On one occasion, I was almost bumped in MIA as well for the very same reason (another aircrew member showed up ahead of me)but demanded to speak to a supervisor who typed furiously for 10mins trying to input my D6U code. I was finally raced out to the plane with moments to spare.

Was she hot?

sandrich 07-24-2012 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by cbxmike (Post 1234465)
Problem is, some of these flights are limited to one per day, and getting to work can be a problem.

Not that it solves your problem, but pretty soon Silver will be flying out of MIA to the islands so at least that will double your options. But I do agree that Bahamian gate agents/rampers have serious attitude issues. Everyone also seems to be on Bahamian time... "Hey can you get us a GPU?" "Yah mon, no problem" (goes to bathroom, smokes a cigarette, talks to the gate agent, eats lunch, then finally comes with a GPU)

mooney 07-24-2012 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by cbxmike (Post 1234465)
Beware: Just FYI for all those possibly looking to JS on Eagle through MIA to any of the Island destinations. The Eagle agents specifically in Treasure Cay Bahamas TCB as well as Marsh Harbor Bahamas MHH believe that only "one" pilot / crew member are allowed at anytime in the cabin. They have no concept of pilot "Flow Through" or how to input a pilots electronically reserved "D6U" category. On both flights I was bumped, there were plenty of empty seats in the back. On one occasion, I was bumped for a USAir FLIGHT ATTENDANT who showed up ahead of me.

The Island agents have plenty of attitude and do not want to hear anything from you. If you ask questions or try to explain the "Flow Through" that reciprocates between your airline and theirs, you get the deer in the headlights look and are simply denied. Problem is, some of these flights are limited to one per day, and getting to work can be a problem.

I have contacted ALPA as well as some Eagle officials, but have not been able to fix the problem where the rubber meets the road; that is, at the gates in MHH and TCB. Everyone else off the Island agrees that this is incorrect. So far, no fix though.

On one occasion, I was almost bumped in MIA as well for the very same reason (another aircrew member showed up ahead of me)but demanded to speak to a supervisor who typed furiously for 10mins trying to input my D6U code. I was finally raced out to the plane with moments to spare.

If you told me "flow through" I'd give you a deer in headlights look too and I've been jumpseating for 12 years! Is that the Bahamian equivalent of "reciprocal?"

ImperialxRat 07-24-2012 06:49 AM

I think American used to have a policy where they only allowed the number of jumpseaters equal to the jumpseats available in the cockpit. Maybe those agents are stuck on old habits/policy... that wouldn't explain why a FA jumpseater would have bumped you though.

sandrich 07-24-2012 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by myoface (Post 1234506)
Was she hot?

Clearly you've found the silver lining in this story ;)

Fly782 07-24-2012 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1234511)
If you told me "flow through" I'd give you a deer in headlights look too and I've been jumpseating for 12 years! Is that the Bahamian equivalent of "reciprocal?"

No no it means you JS on an Eagle Flight and then get a job at AA... Er wait


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