Here's your number (sign) Dude.

Are you stoned or just so buried with Union and Company BS that you miss or disregard information that has already been disclosed?

I don’t know how the Company could have been clearer. They said:

“The proposal includes additional increases to the First Officer scale previously presented to the union…”

You DID get that public memo from the Company and, albeit late (again), from the Union?

http://www.myrjetworkplace.com/wp-co...Pay-Update.pdf

Did not cut & paste for me well, so here's the best table I could come up with:

Current

Year

1 ---- 22.95
2 ---- 30.88
3 ---- 35.52
4 ---- 36.62
5 ---- 36.62
6 ---- 36.62
7+ -- 36.62

Proposed

Year

1 ----- 30
2 ----- 34
3 ----- 37
4 ----- 39
5 ----- 40
6 ----- 41
7+ --- 42

What part of that is ambiguous or confusing?

They really believe a 30 seat turboprop is a good pay comparison for a 44 seat jet??:rolleyes::eek::confused:

Thanks for the PM.

And, you wonder why I don't post this directly to the 357 message board?

Even the pilots that slightly raise the (lack) of communication issues are beat down by the zealots. The senior captains could care less about this negotiation/mediation, they've got theirs and they don't care about the pilots ("Brothers and Sisters") that are cruising through this place as quickly as they possibly can.

They've got theirs, cut the rope.

If I posted this on Local357.org, I'd be crucified. There is still a movement, growing every day, to replace the EBoard and the NC. Too much old garbage and nepotism IRT Midwest. Hopefully we can pull an Eboard and NC together before we all are out of business.

And yes, the senior guys get whatever they want, live in base and are making a reasonable for where they live. If this isn't a senior/junior issue, I don't know what is. Yeah, CM is junior, but his goal are the former Midwest guys.

They do, we don't. To carry it further, props are for boats. A 44 seat jet is a huge stone around your neck as you jump into the river for an enjoyable swim.

I seriously doubt that there will be a commercial airliner that seats less than 70+ in the near future, unless oil really goes down $20 a barrel.

So what do you think of those pay rates 3662ForLife?

What would your chart look like? Please publish the numbers you'd find reasonable.

I'm laughing at those pay rates. In 2003, those pay rates would have been acceptable, with massive work rule changes. So we fast forward to 2007 and those pay rates are not acceptable. By 2012, after all the crap our inept management has pulled... Those pay rates are like offering to pay me in hubcaps or grass clippings, they don't even come close to what I will accept.

So the company basically says they presented a pay counter-proposal? Wow. In that pay counter, they also proposed an "increase"? Wow!

I'm really concerned that this information got out before the union could forewarn us.

3662, Why do you say "not worry about being released yet"? I don't worry about it, I look forward to it. I ask my religious friends to pray for it. I always wonder if BB prays for it not to happen, and I get a few people to pray for it, do I win by numerical superiority?

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Plus where are the trip and duty rigs? Cancellation pay? If they are not in there then it is a NO, No matter what the rates are.

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Not true. If they paid me $200/hour with a 75 hour guarantee, then I do not need cancellation pay or duty rigs. My example is extreme, but you get my point. There is a price for everything.

Voting no on that one. As will pretty much every FO here.