Its just not true, even UAL in the past has dropped MESA because of the product. It is why GOJET or MESA does not do 70% of UAL feed but instead Skywest airlines do. Same at DAL it is from reliable products with a few small airlines that pay less, have a less reliable product and low costs to whipsaw everyone else. Did you not look at that entire thread from the analyst lady about this? I am sorry if it hurts your feeling, however mainlines put the majority of their feed at a reliable product, even at a slightly higher cost, however they keep some bottom feeders in the mix to keep everyone in line. However its very clear why TS/MESA/CHQ/GOJET/Silver is not doing any real numbers for any airline.

Doesn't hurt my feelings, actually makes me laugh at you. The fact Skywest loaned Ual 80mil (and defered collecting 30+ mil in fees) might have a little to do with the fact they have do much flying.

Also, economies of scale make these larger regional airlines cheaper per hour than the smaller "bottom feeders", not necessarily more reliable.

Didn't you just vote for a concessionary contract at eagle? And you are going to call other airlines bottom feeders?

All regionals are pawns in this industry. You are fooling yourself to point fingers to any one regional. GoJets was initially United Express, and now has picked up Delta Connection flying. So? Pinnacle swept in as a NW Airlink-only airline, and then undercut ASA at ATL at a below-cost contract for the ATL base 16 CRJ-900s. Remember how ASA pilots felt after that? How is GoJets different? So Pinnacle leached from one carrier to another mainline customer by undercutting ASA, but GoJets leaching out from one carrier to another mainline customer (Delta Connection) is somehow different?

Same crap, rinsed and repeated.

How do you figure AMR has an RFP for 255 large RJ? This was the 1113 SCOPE, the company chose to implement the TA SCOPE and thus it equals a different amount, stop spreading lies. There are likely RFPs out there for a good chunk of large RJ but please don't spread crap when is not true.

Just because AMR doesn't supposedly want to do with business with TSH doesn't mean they won't listen. GoJet and Compass have some of the lowest employee cost out there and you know they will use this to their advantage even if they don't pick them, also if AMR is to work a trade for the ERJs with Embraer for Ejets you want more than RAH to be able to whipsaw.

Quality doesn't matter and being more expensive is a bad thing. The flying public couldn't care less which regional they're flying on. The tickets are bought at XXXair.com. Price is king.

Worked well for Mesa

You're absolutely right about the 255 number. But we can agree that there is an RFP out for a very large amount of AMR large RJ flying that will probably be divided up between a couple regionals.

Low employee costs is a good advantage, but not everything. Economy of scale is also a significant advantage. Companies like Skywest Inc(especially with their credit rating) can get superior deals on aircraft financing better than mainline carriers themselves, let alone TS Holdings. They can get better deals with vendors for parts, office supplies etc. All together it can easily close the gap on a small carrier having low employee costs. I can start a discont store in ATL with all new employees at minimum wage but am I going to topple Wal-mart?

Yes, yes you are

Announcement expected next week. The company has scheduled a call-in with the CEO and COO for Oct 30th.

The latest rumor is that 10 CRJs are coming from Europe to operate for AE out of LAX.

phone call scheduled for Oct. 30th. No other information given.

I'm interested to see what is said about these rumors as well on the 30th. Supposedly members of the management team were recently in Europe.

I'd expect there to also be a rather lengthy Q & A regarding the Samsung tablets that have just began to be distributed.

Looking for current info. Anyone know current upgrade time? Are they doing street captains? Junior base etc? Thanks

i heard the annoucement is that G7 has a TA.

What a joke - all this whining about GoJet.

GoJet exist because TSA's contract scope provisions did not protect all the flying of TSA holdings.

GoJets' existence is purely the fault of TSA's MEC, negotiators and the pilots that voted for the contract in force at the time of G7s creation.

Upgrade time is around 3 months due to all the growth. Junior bases are STL and RDU. New hire classes of 60 plus for November and 40 for December. 2013 hiring will continue with another 200--250 pilots.

3 months??? really?

I just threw up in my mouth a little. Growth? I think it's more the United furloughees leaving in droves back to the CAL side... I have 3 of them in my crashpad and all they all having absolutely nothng nice to say about G7.

I just lost $50 bet that you would disappear. Thought you would come back with a different screen name like you did last time. I guess Luv2Rotate got sodomized for running his mouth and decided to end his misery. Ironically, he reincarnated as Slats.

Remember "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Well boo hoo...

I have not heard many United pilots say anything nice about United either. And yes--most have gone back to United. The hiring and upgrades are mainly for growth--so I guess you can throw up again.

Well, of course not, G7 is as close to a scab operation as you can get without a picket line to physically cross. One of them the other day was complaining that he was on day 12. (He got his "day off" of 24 hours off at an outstation and was then made to work another 6).

But hey, you know, quick upgrade...

I guess I should come in here at some point right?

Welcome to the party.

i was thinking the same thing.

there's a teleconference tomorrow. i'll let you guys know what's discussed. rumored growth will def be a topic.

where to begin.

my oldest sister's best friend's cousin's nanny kind of has AIDS.

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While you ain't a scab, I would still treat you like a leper IRL.

CaptainCarl- What is your deal??

He's got an overabundance of awesome. It's a condition he's helpless to control.

Here it is in a nutshell;

1. Gained more flying, but have to operate at a loss like the rest of our flying.

2. Need to initiate pay cuts since we continue to take flying at a loss we can`t afford the already cheap pay scale we have in place.

3. You need to go find your own healthcare

4. We have increased your days off per month from 8 to 8.5

5. We will be handing out a Christmas bonus this year, but it has to be shared between each crew. We have agreed on a bag of skittles. The flight attendants get to dictate how many skittles everyone gets. This is not optional!!!

6. All those listening in on this tele-conference will be charged a conference call fee, which will be taken out of your paycheck.

Any questions can be put in the suggestion box in your respective domicile and will be laughed at during the next management meeting.

How clever of you. Guys like you need a forum like this to hide behind. The chip on your shoulder is not attractive and your jealousy can not be hidden.

Ha, I'm proud to deny you a jumpseat. Face to Face.

I have a friend at GJ, he's looking into Cobra, is it true that there's no medical and dental or it's worse than Cobra? if so, that's pathetic.

Apparently, you don't know what "COBRA" is. It is not a specific health plan (standing for Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act), but rather a program to allow for you to continue your health benefits from your employer when you become unemployed or otherwise lose your job. And you can only remain on your health plan via COBRA for a specified number of months. You are responisble for paying the entire cost of the premium though, so your employer does not subsidize it. There have been some modifications to the program recently to help those unemployed, but that is it in a nutshell.

How can you call something "pathetic" when you don't even know what you are comparing it to?

I get a line for October, don't post on APC much, and not a damn thing has changed.

Feels good to be back.

Apparently you didn't read what I said. I'll help you. I said, "is it true that there's no medical and dental or it's worse than Cobra?" As in the amount you pay. He was looking into Cobra when he left his last airline before starting at GJ, since there's a gap from the time he left and a time he can qualify for insurance at GJ. He would have to pay about $1,000/month. If He's paying that kind of cost for insurance at GJ, it's pathetic. Yes, I know it varies from OAP to HRA and the amount from the last employer, but having to pay $500/month+ for medical is horrible.

That it total 100% bsht... even if he was on reserve..which doesn't last long here

Hahahahahaha...jealous of what? You Go Jet people crack me up, what a joke.