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erjdrivin 10-16-2012 07:01 AM

G7 growing again?
 
There are very strong rumors that G7 is getting ready to grow again. Class sizes have increased from 8 to 32-40, the company has advertised additional openings for sim instructors, check airmen, and SOC staff, and management has been dropping strong hints and winks in recurrent classes. There is a rumor floating around that 10 used CRJ7s are coming from Europe.. possibly from Lufthansa. Nobody knows who they'll be flown for. Does anyone have any additional details?

lolwut 10-16-2012 07:10 AM

Looks like going there would've been a great career move.

Haters gonna hate.

LocoLizer 10-16-2012 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by erjdrivin (Post 1277812)
There are very strong rumors that G7 is getting ready to grow again. Class sizes have increased from 8 to 32-40, the company has advertised additional openings for sim instructors, check airmen, and SOC staff, and management has been dropping strong hints and winks in recurrent classes. There is a rumor floating around that 10 used CRJ7s are coming from Europe.. possibly from Lufthansa. Nobody knows who they'll be flown for. Does anyone have any additional details?

I heard they coming from PSA not Lufthansa...

props4ever 10-16-2012 08:06 AM

I guess in the end it will be SkyWest, Republic, and Gojet.

meyers9163 10-16-2012 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by LocoLizer (Post 1277824)
I heard they coming from PSA not Lufthansa...

10 of the 14 PSA has? Makes sense?

Do you all still have UAL guys with recall rights?

fullflank 10-16-2012 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by LocoLizer (Post 1277824)
I heard they coming from PSA not Lufthansa...

Yeah but honestly, I think its a matter of time before they are flying for Usair.

erjdrivin 10-16-2012 09:28 AM

There are still a few remaining UAL guys. Several are leaving this month.

clearprop 10-16-2012 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by fullflank (Post 1277867)
Yeah but honestly, I think its a matter of time before they are flying for Usair.

with 00 flying them for USair.

lolwut 10-16-2012 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by fullflank (Post 1277867)
Yeah but honestly, I think its a matter of time before they are flying for Usair.

US Airways Express operated by Lufthansa.

Yeah right.

fullflank 10-16-2012 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1277913)
US Airways Express operated by Lufthansa.

Yeah right.

What does that even mean? You actually think my post meant that Lufthansa will be flying for US Airways rather than G7? Or am I missing some humor here?

Pilotguy143 10-16-2012 10:47 AM

Something is up. Going from a planned class of 8 and turning it to 40-50 means more flying. I've heard every rumor in the book (900's, American flying etc).

blakman7 10-16-2012 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by fullflank (Post 1277918)
What does that even mean? You actually think my post meant that Lufthansa will be flying for US Airways rather than G7? Or am I missing some humor here?

I think he misunderstood what you said. I knew what you meant.

CrippleHawk 10-16-2012 01:18 PM

Maybe the turnover rate is high

freeze3192 10-16-2012 01:35 PM

i want to fly for gojet.

nightrider 10-16-2012 01:56 PM

Who is g7?

Systemized 10-16-2012 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by props4ever (Post 1277857)
I guess in the end it will be SkyWest, Republic, and TSH.

It's only a matter of time until Compass starts growing again with the addition of more DCI E175s...

Trip7 10-16-2012 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by Systemized (Post 1278013)
It's only a matter of time until Compass starts growing again with the addition of more DCI E175s...

Embraer offers improved E-175 to win Delta order

Flip the epaulets upside down and tell the ladies "I fly the Plus":D

Diver Driver 10-16-2012 03:45 PM

Somebody has to pick up all that Comair flying...

weekendflyer 10-16-2012 03:54 PM

[QUOTE=LocoLizer;1277824]I heard they coming from PSA not Lufthansa...[/QUO

you heard wrong

Fly782 10-16-2012 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 1278075)
Embraer offers improved E-175 to win Delta order

Flip the epaulets upside down and tell the ladies "I fly the Plus":D

Inside out! Get it right, upside down was already done.

Fly782 10-16-2012 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Systemized (Post 1278013)
It's only a matter of time until Compass starts growing again with the addition of more DCI E175s...

And you think that why?

seafeye 10-16-2012 06:50 PM

The rumor on the street is that Go Jerks went to US Airways and said that they wanted PSA's 700's. Because they could operate them for cheaper.
We know that this has some value because PSA's management has openly suggested during contract negotiations to scrap PSA's 401k plan in order to be competitive with Go Jerks and keep the 700's.
Negotiation ploy? Most likely. Would i put it past Go Jer.......s? No!

fullflank 10-16-2012 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 1278161)
The rumor on the street is that Go Jerks went to US Airways and said that they wanted PSA's 700's. Because they could operate them for cheaper.
We know that this has some value because PSA's management has openly suggested during contract negotiations to scrap PSA's 401k plan in order to be competitive with Go Jerks and keep the 700's.
Negotiation ploy? Most likely. Would i put it past Go Jer.......s? No!

I don't believe our scope section would allow this as long as the aircraft are leased by US Airways. However, when the leases expire, it is not inconceivable that a transfer of airframes could occur to the likes of Go Jet.

atrdriver 10-16-2012 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by erjdrivin (Post 1277812)
There are very strong rumors that G7 is getting ready to grow again. Class sizes have increased from 8 to 32-40, the company has advertised additional openings for sim instructors, check airmen, and SOC staff, and management has been dropping strong hints and winks in recurrent classes.

GoJetzzz can actually find 32-40 pilots to show up for a class there? If that's true, it's pathetic.

atooraya 10-16-2012 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by atrdriver (Post 1278188)
GoJetzzz can actually find 32-40 pilots to show up for a class there? If that's true, it's pathetic.

There's a pilot shortage

Pilotguy143 10-17-2012 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by atrdriver (Post 1278188)
GoJetzzz can actually find 32-40 pilots to show up for a class there? If that's true, it's pathetic.

For better or for worse, most of these guys and gals are ex-Comair folks.

Trip7 10-17-2012 05:03 AM

From what I've heard they are having no problem filling classes. Upgrade as soon as you have the time. Junior Capt is Apr 2012 hire. I don't think there is any other regional within 2 years of that.

PurdueFlyer 10-17-2012 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by Pilotguy143 (Post 1278237)
For better or for worse, most of these guys and gals are ex-Comair folks.

I don't understand why any ex-Comair person would ever go to GoJetzzzz or any other regional for that matter. The guys left there were all Captains at one point and must have thousands of hours of total time and at least a decent amount of turbine PIC. There have got to be some corporate jobs or maybe Spirit or something else out there.

Honestly 8+ years at a company to start all over on food stamp wages at a place that has the one of the worst if not the worst contracts in an industry segment full of horrific contracts.

The room is full of fat ugly chicks (regional industry), why go pick the fattest, ugliest, and loudest one around?

RJtrashPilot 10-17-2012 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by PurdueFlyer (Post 1278289)
I don't understand why any ex-Comair person would ever go to GoJetzzzz or any other regional for that matter. The guys left there were all Captains at one point and must have thousands of hours of total time and at least a decent amount of turbine PIC. There have got to be some corporate jobs or maybe Spirit or something else out there.

Honestly 8+ years at a company to start all over on food stamp wages at a place that has the one of the worst if not the worst contracts in an industry segment full of horrific contracts.

The room is full of fat ugly chicks (regional industry), why go pick the fattest, ugliest, and loudest one around?

This isn't accurate. There were many 6+ year FOs (possibly even more junior than that) that were there when the doors closed that never had the chance to upgrade there.

And for the fat, ugly chick comment...maybe because she puts out?? Many of these FOs that are going to GoJet have the time to upgrade almost immediately.

lolwut 10-17-2012 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by PurdueFlyer (Post 1278289)
I don't understand why any ex-Comair person would ever go to GoJetzzzz or any other regional for that matter. The guys left there were all Captains at one point and must have thousands of hours of total time and at least a decent amount of turbine PIC. There have got to be some corporate jobs or maybe Spirit or something else out there.

Honestly 8+ years at a company to start all over on food stamp wages at a place that has the one of the worst if not the worst contracts in an industry segment full of horrific contracts.

The room is full of fat ugly chicks (regional industry), why go pick the fattest, ugliest, and loudest one around?

These are the people that held out at Comair for years passing up the opportunities that have existed over the last decade. Yes it has been tight but there have been plenty of opportunities for a qualified pilot to move out of the regionals. It bit them pretty hard.... they might not be that smart but they still do need a job.

MoarAlpha 10-17-2012 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by nightrider (Post 1278011)
Who is g7?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...l4vo1_1280.jpg

xjtguy 10-17-2012 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Diver Driver (Post 1278080)
Somebody has to pick up all that Comair flying...

And too bad it can't actually be mainline via realignment of aircraft.

IQuitEagle 10-17-2012 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 1278161)
The rumor on the street is that Go Jerks went to US Airways and said that they wanted PSA's 700's. Because they could operate them for cheaper.
We know that this has some value because PSA's management has openly suggested during contract negotiations to scrap PSA's 401k plan in order to be competitive with Go Jerks and keep the 700's.
Negotiation ploy? Most likely. Would i put it past Go Jer.......s? No!

"Go Jerks"...gee how witty! You make yourself sound so erudite...

PCLCREW 10-17-2012 02:01 PM

GoJet will be bankrupt by 2014.

Moonwolf 10-17-2012 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by PCLCREW (Post 1278571)
GoJet will be bankrupt by 2014.

God I hope so!

doofenshmirtz 10-17-2012 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by PCLCREW (Post 1278571)
GoJet will be bankrupt by 2014.

Unfortunately I doubt it, the pilot group would more than likely take even further cuts in pay and bennes in order to continue to lower the bar.

What 10-17-2012 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by doofenshmirtz (Post 1278609)
Unfortunately I doubt it, the pilot group would more than likely take even further cuts in pay and bennes in order to continue to lower the bar.

Pilot pay is a small percentage of the overall equation, specially in Go Jet where pilot compensation and total cost are the lowest in the industry, if this company will go belly up the pilots won't be able to save it, but I have no doubt they will try :D

CRJ900Series 10-17-2012 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1278297)
These are the people that held out at Comair for years passing up the opportunities that have existed over the last decade. Yes it has been tight but there have been plenty of opportunities for a qualified pilot to move out of the regionals. It bit them pretty hard.... they might not be that smart but they still do need a job.

Right...we all just sat around for decades, while jobs were handed to us on silver platters. We didn't want any of them, we preferred to wait around until the company was broken up, so we could crawl to GAYJets and beg for a nice job.

Too bad none of us are as smart as you are.

JustAnotherPLT 10-17-2012 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1278632)
Pilot pay is a small percentage of the overall equation, specially in Go Jet where pilot compensation and total cost are the lowest in the industry, if this company will go belly up the pilots won't be able to save it, but I have no doubt they will try :D

They'll pay the company to keep their "job" of flying the 7s and potential rumored 9s.

Saddle up, it's GoJetsssssssss time.

yeah sure 10-17-2012 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1278297)
These are the people that held out at Comair for years passing up the opportunities that have existed over the last decade. Yes it has been tight but there have been plenty of opportunities for a qualified pilot to move out of the regionals. It bit them pretty hard.... they might not be that smart but they still do need a job.

Do you realize what a stupid comment this is? You might wanna go back and read what you said again. Going to a major or legacy isn't as easy as you say it is.


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