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Diesel450 10-29-2012 10:19 AM


.64, that's dangerous. You could be out run by a Citation at that speed.
Fixed it for you

paxhauler85 10-29-2012 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 1284482)
.64, that's dangerous. You could run over a Citation at that speed.

It's a sad attempt to boost their paychecks by overblocking every single leg. Was behind them about 2 years ago from LGA-MCI. Center noticed the speed discrepancy, and asked them their speed. ".64." They accepted a vector off course and a lower altitude to keep that speed, so that every eastbound airplane out of LGA passed over them and around them.

The sad part is they continue to be awarded flying, while the rest of us work hard to put up excellent on-time performance numbers each month.

Proof positive that Richard Anderson only cares about one thing: cost. Pitiful.

MunkyButtr 10-29-2012 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 1284566)
It's a sad attempt to boost their paychecks by overblocking every single leg. Was behind them about 2 years ago from LGA-MCI. Center noticed the speed discrepancy, and asked them their speed. ".64." They accepted a vector off course and a lower altitude to keep that speed, so that every eastbound airplane out of LGA passed over them and around them.

The sad part is they continue to be awarded flying, while the rest of us work hard to put up excellent on-time performance numbers each month.

Proof positive that Richard Anderson only cares about one thing: cost. Pitiful.

You think they're the only ones? Bahahaha

johnso29 10-29-2012 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 1284482)
.64, that's dangerous. You could run over a Citation at that speed.

That depends on the Citation. ;)

Citation X

Cessna Citation X - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

SSMR13 10-31-2012 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 1284566)
It's a sad attempt to boost their paychecks by overblocking every single leg. Was behind them about 2 years ago from LGA-MCI. Center noticed the speed discrepancy, and asked them their speed. ".64." They accepted a vector off course and a lower altitude to keep that speed, so that every eastbound airplane out of LGA passed over them and around them.

The sad part is they continue to be awarded flying, while the rest of us work hard to put up excellent on-time performance numbers each month.

Proof positive that Richard Anderson only cares about one thing: cost. Pitiful.

And who is it you fly for that you are treated so well at the regional level, that you do everything you can to be an exemplary regional pilot to your mainline contractor?

We do fly slow, all of RAH. Personally, I like the environmental impact, or lack there of, I'm making by conserving fuel, but the extra cash certainly helps. Especially so on the FO side. Do I care about on-time performance? To be honest with you, I'm only paid to be so much of a professional, and caring about on time performance is much more professional than what I'm paid for.

However, I do make sure every one of my flights is very safe. That's what bare minimum pay and sub-par relations get you. And safety often means that on time performance suffers. Again, not paid to care about that.

For you regional yahoo's who do all they can to be the best regional pilot they can be. Think about what your company has done for you recently. Is your regional a little better than RAH? That could very well be the case. But do remember that you still fly for a Regional Airline, a business whose sole purpose is to undercut labor costs at any cost. There is no bright side to this business model, it's all about lowering cost at all levels of this profession.

It's still funny to me that you are complaining about someone flying slow, or unprofessional, and still getting flying from the majors.

DSRoss996 10-31-2012 12:09 PM

"The sad part is they continue to be awarded flying, while the rest of us work hard to put up excellent on-time performance numbers each month."

Really? Is it that much harder to put .78 in the box than .64? Maybe I'm missing something here...

Gearswinger 10-31-2012 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by SSMR13 (Post 1285584)
And who is it you fly for that you are treated so well at the regional level, that you do everything you can to be an exemplary regional pilot to your mainline contractor?

We do fly slow, all of RAH. Personally, I like the environmental impact, or lack there of, I'm making by conserving fuel, but the extra cash certainly helps. Especially so on the FO side. Do I care about on-time performance? To be honest with you, I'm only paid to be so much of a professional, and caring about on time performance is much more professional than what I'm paid for.

However, I do make sure every one of my flights is very safe. That's what bare minimum pay and sub-par relations get you. And safety often means that on time performance suffers. Again, not paid to care about that.

For you regional yahoo's who do all they can to be the best regional pilot they can be. Think about what your company has done for you recently. Is your regional a little better than RAH? That could very well be the case. But do remember that you still fly for a Regional Airline, a business whose sole purpose is to undercut labor costs at any cost. There is no bright side to this business model, it's all about lowering cost at all levels of this profession.

It's still funny to me that you are complaining about someone flying slow, or unprofessional, and still getting flying from the majors.

That rant is pathetic.

paxhauler85 11-01-2012 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by DSRoss996 (Post 1285601)
"The sad part is they continue to be awarded flying, while the rest of us work hard to put up excellent on-time performance numbers each month."

Really? Is it that much harder to put .78 in the box than .64? Maybe I'm missing something here...

I was referring to other things like quick turns at out stations and being pro-active to get the on-time departure. That can be difficult when you block in 10-20 mins late because you fly green dot for 2 hours.

I respect saving fuel, and will do so when when can maintain schedule integrity. I would suggest flying at optimum altitude and selecting LRC in the box if you want to be as efficient as possible in the 170.

I have a vested interest in Delta's all around performance, since their success keeps my airline in business. My secondary interest involves my airlines performance. I don't want them to go the way of Freedom if the performance begins to suffer.

My reasoning seems pretty valid if you ask me. It should be for you as well, if you value having a job.

MunkyButtr 11-01-2012 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 1285869)
I was referring to other things like quick turns at out stations and being pro-active to get the on-time departure. That can be difficult when you block in 10-20 mins late because you fly green dot for 2 hours.

I respect saving fuel, and will do so when when can maintain schedule integrity. I would suggest flying at optimum altitude and selecting LRC in the box if you want to be as efficient as possible in the 170.

I have a vested interest in Delta's all around performance, since their success keeps my airline in business. My secondary interest involves my airlines performance. I don't want them to go the way of Freedom if the performance begins to suffer.

My reasoning seems pretty valid if you ask me. It should be for you as well, if you value having a job.

Where does your family and dignity fit in to that priority list? People seem so concerned with keeping a job, but what if that job won't support a family no matter how quick you turn your plane or how much fuel you save? There are very few CEO's in this industry, none of which are in the regionals, who would reinvest those saving into labor. I don't disagree with doing the right thing, if you can get in early that's great, but don't for one second think it is going to keep you employed.

Captain Tony 11-01-2012 06:01 AM

No, you "yahoos" at RAH need to speed up. I'm also sick and tired of following you "yahoos" to the Northeast and being asked to slow to .70 or less when my plane's min speed is .74, with a normal of .82. You can convince yourself that you're saving fuel or acting "professional" all you want, but none of it will make up for your pathetic excuse of a contract that requires you to over block every leg to make any money. and it's hardly professional delaying your passengers 15+ minutes and screwing their connections just to make a few extra bucks.


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