RAH to hire 850 in 12 months
 

So the news coming out of the most recent Aerocrew Solutions job fair is that RAH intends to hire about 125 yet this year and has the classes and many of the new hires lined up. However, the big news is that they have significantly increased their projected new hire needs from 300 to 750+ for next year.

There must be something in the works for the number to jump that much. The word is that most of the hiring will be on the Republic side, which probably means either greater Q growth or the AA deal for 175's is coming into focus. If true, the guys getting in now will be half way up the FO seniority list in a year.

This could be just recruiting propaganda, but in their investor call the other day BB mentioned "the increased amount of RFP activity we are seeing from our partners".

Did anyone hear any other 2013 hiring projections at the job fair or something different from the RAH folks?

SkyWest is saying the same thing. The "flood gates" are supposed to open come spring and try need to get ahead of the wave.

i wonder if they will offer all the new hires big bonuses vs their time tested employees an appreciation check. ha.

Well maybe they could attract a few with a decent contract.
My guess additional flying is for AA once scope is tossed.

The additional flying is for AA, and AA only. No one else is looking to increase thier feed. This industry has been stagnant for over two decades. This is a no growth industry. This increase in flying comes at a cost for others. So don't cheer when you gain, and stay strong and versitile when you lose. No one should be comfortable in this industry.

750 might cover attrition next year

Where are they going to get the pilots from?

Toys R Us.

I was wondering the same thing. Massive furloughs at AA as S80s are replaced with 175s ala the UAL 737s and GoJet?

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Boy, usually I'm an optimist, but good luck finding 850 pilots willing to go to the bottom of a massive list for poverty wages. Are there really that many out there ready to be hired?

Good luck. Eagle said a similar thing and we had a total of I think 5 guys in the latest new hire class.

This is 2012, things have changed since fuel was relatively lower and pilots were at a premium, airlines wanted the RJ to increase frequency. The industry has consolidated and is looking at capacity control. Airlines are reducing frequency and flying larger aircraft. AA has been outsourcing ground ops at many stations and has a huge order of airbus 319's to replace the MD80's. It would be more expensive to replace the MD80's with 76 seaters than it will be with 319's! The RJ are not economical, the 50 are the worse but the 76 seaters are not far behind, they just have a few more seats to spread the fuel but when you consider the operating cost mainly fuel of an E175 or CRJ900 is not that much less than an Airbus 319 that holds almost double the amount of people. Regional pilots working for peanuts won't come close to make up the difference.

I hope you're right and that those Airbii don't end up at RAH or any other regional. However, history does not support your argument.

I'd be willing to bet that when you remove labor costs, flying 2 E75s costs just about the same as flying one S80 over the same stage length. About the same number of seats, both premium and economy. Frequency is a bonus.

Does anyone know what certificates the new hires are being put into in the latest classes? Will Chautauqua keep getting classes?

The company is living in a dream world. Almost every class coming through shows up less than half full. Then a good portion are quitting before finishing. Of the 125 the company claims to have set to go this year, maybe 40 will make it to the line. There is absolutely no chance they'll find 700+ pilots next year considering everyone is looking for the same. They want to give an industry bottom contract and still expect to attract pilots over skywest? Absolute fantasy world bb lives in.

BB, we know this is you......

FALSE

Example 1.....The *****d out Delta contract

First half of this paragraph is completely false. Having spent most of the last few months in the training center only one class was even remotely close to being half empty. Everything else was full/close to full. I think 6 people left training before finishing and almost all of them were told resign or fail.

Not much wrong with the second half though. If they think we're going to compete, there'd better be a new contract.

I think the graduating classes for riddle, und and the other "famous" aviation universities can more than cover that amount.

From what I hear, most of those graduating classes are Chinese, Japanese and Korean in origin and are heading back to their home countries to take jobs back from expats.

I don't think it's even possible for every university level aviation program combined to put out much more then 700-1000 COMMERCIAL (250 hours) pilots. Its more likely about 600-700 and half of those guys wont fly for regionals, even less will have 1500 hours...

Are you the famous ******* that likes to knock every guy who has a degree from an aviation school because it makes you feel better then them? Or perhaps you are the guy without a degree that makes fun of UND and Riddle guys for having a degree? Given the fact that you obviously have a pre determined opinion of pilots from these schools, I will tell you to be cautious when you talk about said opinions in public. Since you feel that RAH can be staffed by only said pilots from "famous" aviation universities, it is possible you may insult every single new co-worker you have. It's also possible they will be interviewing you for a job someday...

No they won't.

i know i didnt have 1500 hours coming out of those schools....so good luck to them getting their atp before august. Unless something has changed that im not aware of...

There is also the probability of this being a PR stunt to attract pilots who otherwise wouldn't be interested. Hiring bonuses only helped so much. If the recruiters sell their prospective hires on the idea of massive movement, they may get a few more guys who closer to ATP minnimums.

If something sounds to good to be true, it probably is...

This says all that needs to be said.

Interview
 

They are being aggressive, I put my app in this past Sunday morning, got a call Monday morning to set up interview which is now next week.

Got one next week as well. Any idea what cert. they are hiring for. Lady on the phone made it seem like classes would be pretty soon.

Airbuses will not be flown by AA feeders due to scope. 76-seaters will though. As tantalizing as massive furloughs might be, that won't be happening either. RAH like other regionals are finding out what Eagle is now, i.e., there are no pilots out there in the pipeline for food-stamp flying jobs and they are making every false promise to get who they can in anticipation of attrition.

Airline executives are well-known snake oil salesmen when it comes to their interests. Sadly, this profession is filled to the brim with gullible saps who will bite the same hook over and over.

Don't they have a 5yr training contract for the E-Jets?

One MD80 due to its age will likely cost more than 2 new E175 to operate, but you also have to account that AMR will replace the MD80's with A319's and one A319 will 90% of the amount of pax as the 2 E175 at a much lower cost!

It wouldn't surprise me if we signed some deal for more flying next year.

BUT, management is intentionally floating this rumor to get people applying to RAH.

I still can't believe people are coming here. If you are competitive, go to Skywest, who has massive aircraft orders, more cash than the entire market value of RJET, and managers with (some) integrity. Take a look at rjet financials, they've already started prepping to go Ch 11.

We have Seabury and Ford+Harrison on property, the same clowns that are advising Pinnacle right now on tossing their pilot contract... Our situations are quite similar.

Maybe seabury is advising them to keep hiring and giving new hire bonus checks just to keep the training program churning through as much money as possible to make it looks like the company is bleeding cash. Worked for them to get the Pinnacle group into bankruptcy...

Would you mind sharing your totals? I've been applying for a while with not call back.

One of our former captains that goes by the nickname of "fuel cap" apparently just got hired there

Not that high actually, 1111 TT w 490 Multi turbine, ATP written AGI/IGI

Maybe they are getting ready for the strike.

what happens if they take on extra contracts on top of their current ones and then cant staff them??????

Oh ya they get heavy penalties and will join PNCL in CH11!

I dont know why anyone would go here with a 6 year upgrade and $23/hr first year and mid-high 20s every year after for years, with no CX pay protection!

Go to Skywest you idiots.

Maybe those idiots tried SkyWest and were turned down in the process?

It won't be a 6 year upgrade. Raising the retirement age to 65 pretty much froze everyone in place for 5 years. The two year upgrades happening at Republic before the age change will now be about 7 year upgrades. This is pretty close to true at all regionals. That age change hurt everyone more than we realize.