SkyWest Inc (Owner of ExpressJet) is a very strong company. Two years? Nah, it'll be around for at least 5-10. (slightly serious, slightly joking) Right now, the two pilot groups at Xjet are separate. IF... IF L-XJT were to lose E145s, the CRJ side (L-ASA) would not be affected currently. Most likely IF there were furloughes from the LXJT side, they would come to the LASA side as we are hiring right now. As of right now, L-ASA (CRJ side) is hiring, a lot. That could change tomorrow of course. But for now, to answer the question you asked, if we were to lose ERJ145s, the CRJ side would be unaffected.

The ERJ contract SKYW negotiated is good for 8 more years and provides up to 75 large regional aircraft on a 1 for 1 swap with an ERJ.

There will be no loss of jobs with United parking 50s

[QUOTE=astec;1318592]Stealing is an awfully strong word. AMR decided they wanted to diversify their regional feed; I suggest you direct your anger at them (or DAL for spearheading the portfolio approach). Most of the XJT guys I talk to are just happy a home was found for some 200s, preventing large scale staffing reductions. They're also glad AE is continuing to hire despite AMR's diversification efforts.

so when Delta 'diversifies' there feed to HoJets, you feel the same way? Happy for them that there 700's found a home, prevent large scale staff reductions?

That CPA that lasts 8 more years covers 204 aircraft. The other 40 airplanes (7 135's, 30 give or take 145 ER's & LR's) no one really knows the terms. There is no hard requirement to reduce 50 seaters in the new mainline scope section until they reach 154 76 seaters. There is a long way to go before they get anywhere near that number on property and the UAL MEC believes they will continue to operate the 50 seaters until the airframes are returned to the lessor or maintenance becomes prohibitively expensive. They did just add 4 more 50 seaters with republic and aren't running away from the fleet type just yet. The "scope choke" by the UAL MEC is targeting the 90-100 seat aircraft and is forcing management to give them that aircraft at mainline or run into the problem of retiring 50 seaters, limited 76 seaters, and not enough UAX to fly the network.

UAL management is expecting to lose 150 50 seaters in the next three years to lease expirations or maintenance for all of UAX (primarily skywest, expressjet, transtates, Chautauqua.) For XJT I think you will see our erj 145XR's stick around long term, the 75 replacement aircraft, and a handful of relatively young LR's. Probably somewhere just north of 200 airplanes which will be a net loss but should not worry junior pilots. Attrition is at 15 a month and increasing(LXJT side), 1500 rule, flight / duty time regs, and no loss of aircraft until end of 2013 the junior guys should be safe.

Is there a proposed time of when the seniority lists will merge?

The 50 seaters do not have to be parked until UAL reaches 154 76 seaters. And they cannot add any 76 seaters until Jan 14 (they currently have 35 of them). But I believe the ERJs are going to be parked anyway when their leases start expiring sometime next year.

November 12, 2020 to be exact. That CPA also has a growth clause of 15 aircraft.

That CPA also stated that CAL could bring those UAL aircraft back into the CAL CPA under its existing terms if they wanted to. And the last 10Q said that the CAL CPA was for 227 aircraft. So it seems like they've added the first 2 tranches of the UAL CPA aircraft into the CAL CPA and the only ones left are the short term 135s and the last tranche of 15 aircraft in the UAL CPA, which I believe come up for renewal in April.

Not quite the same situation. GoJet was awarded aircraft SKYW/XJT were currently operating. GoJet had no threat of shrinking at the time. In this case SKYW and XJT had aircraft that were being removed from DL service and needed a home. The AA flying is being done with aircraft we already had, not with AE's equipment.

Another difference: GoJet is a scumbag alter ego operator with some of the worst compensation in the regional sector. SKYW/XJT have much better compensation & work rules. It isn't like the pilots are perpetuating the race to the bottom to get AA flying.

In short, I don't accept your premise. However I recognize that any of these regional feed realignments are ultimately decisions made by the mainline brand management. I blame the puppet masters for these things, not the puppets.

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Thanks I hadn't heard that.