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CrakPipeOvrheat 12-15-2012 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1312555)

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 1312541)
So you should tell them you want to be paid at least $100,000/yr, salary, don't like working with incompetent people or lazy people, you'll tell the captain he better call in sick or you'll call him in drunk, your last boss was a jerk that treated workers like crap, you'd rather know what bases are available and how long you'll have to sit on reserve, tell them that you're just there for the 1000 PIC and then you're off to the majors, and what kind of airplane will I be in?


EVERYBODY is faking it.

The successful ones are faking it well, while being personable, making carefully thought-out statements that show they are human and are professional.

No. Why lie? I already knew what salary I would be getting so no point arguing that. No one likes working with incompetent people so no point in saying that stuff. I have always been honest in all my interviews. Long term, I told at my regional interview I'd like to move on to a major. I was honest and hired. You'd be lying if you said you're gonna stay there for life, unless you are an older guy and don't plan on moving on.

For my current airline interview, same honest thing. I was asked where I saw myself in 10 years. I said I was married with no kids yet. I was also saving up for a mortgage. I said in 10 years I am hopefully a homeowner and a father. That honestly where I see myself in 10 years. I got hired with honest answers.

I don't do interviews and I feel like you've omitted information. Let me put it to you this way. Do you want to be working here in ten years or a different airline? I always think that is what they mean by that question. You kinda dodged the question. I think you have a good tactic. You have found an interview loophole.

gloopy 12-15-2012 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by swamp (Post 1312483)
on how to get an interview with a good mainline, many, many, many of us are well qualified but our phone remains silent..

You should check your email instead, that's how they do it.

:D Anyway best of luck, hopefully hiring starts soon. Ish. This decade. Maybe.

ShyGuy 12-15-2012 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat (Post 1312580)
I don't do interviews and I feel like you've omitted information. Let me put it to you this way. Do you want to be working here in ten years or a different airline? I always think that is what they mean by that question. You kinda dodged the question. I think you have a good tactic. You have found an interview loophole.

I gave an honest answer. They didn't ask in terms of employer.

gloopy 12-15-2012 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1312488)
[*]Still requires the pilot to give up their longevity at the door

I just don't see any way around this. What pilot group is going to spend negotiating capital, and lots of it, to fund every new hire starting at or near max longevity everything? All new hires making 140/hr with 5 weeks vacation and 240 hours of sick time would be a very expensive item to secure. Talk about "what do you want to give up for that".

Not to mention until a pilot flows, that pilot isn't on property. This is just never going to happen.

MEMbrain 12-15-2012 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1312468)
Doug deserved every bit of what he has got (and I thought he upgraded), and has paid it forward to other aspiring pilots more than anyone I've ever seen. Calling him a class act is an understatement.

You can't tell me with a straight face that when he got hired at Delta he wasn't the "token minority" hire.

SmitteyB 12-15-2012 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by MEMbrain (Post 1312369)
You mean like that guy that runs the jetcareers website? He was hired at Delta while a Beech 1900 copilot at Skyway. But according to him, he deserved to get hired at Delta when he did.

I know this post has been left in the dust, but Doug is a pioneer for early aviator education. His website breathed life into this one. He helped me go from a high school senior to airline captain just by listening and reading what he and other had to say. Doug didn't deserve his spot at Delta, HE EARNED IT.

Nominee for DBAG post of the year.

MEMbrain 12-15-2012 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by SmitteyB (Post 1312643)
I know this post has been left in the dust, but Doug is a pioneer for early aviator education. His website breathed life into this one. He helped me go from a high school senior to airline captain just by listening and reading what he and other had to say. Doug didn't deserve his spot at Delta, HE EARNED IT.

Nominee for DBAG post of the year.


Educate us on how he "earned" his spot at Delta? Young, low time, small turboprop pilot. How was he more "competitive" than other applicants at Delta other than being a MINORITY?

SailorJerry 12-16-2012 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by MEMbrain (Post 1312657)

Educate us on how he "earned" his spot at Delta? Young, low time, small turboprop pilot. How was he more "competitive" than other applicants at Delta other than being a MINORITY?

Dude - you know not of what you speak. With an attitude like that you'd get torn limb from limb at Delta.

We have this thing about entitlements at Delta. We hate them.

What Delta does like are young, low-time, talented aviators (read turbo-prop pilots). Why would Delta hire a 55 year old with 17000 hours over a 28 year old with 3500 hours? Because statistically the 28 year old with 3500 hours will have a lower rate of training failure. Plain and simple.

The interview process over the last 20 years has been color blind. While Delta certainly enjoys a close relationship with OBAP, or whoever's scholarship recipients were getting 737 types in our simulators, the interview process was made to be gender and race neutral. You must be confusing United with Delta or something.

You owe Doug an apology and you might as well quit paying the $60 a year to have your Delta app in.

DL31082 12-16-2012 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1312468)
Doug deserved every bit of what he has got (and I thought he upgraded), and has paid it forward to other aspiring pilots more than anyone I've ever seen. Calling him a class act is an understatement.

+1. His website has done more to educate me on this industry then anywhere else I can think of. If I had to say two people who have helped me the most in this industry it would be him and 80kts, and I dont even know Doug personally.

Saabs 12-16-2012 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by MEMbrain (Post 1312657)
Educate us on how he "earned" his spot at Delta? Young, low time, small turboprop pilot. How was he more "competitive" than other applicants at Delta other than being a MINORITY?

Yes delta shouldn't hire turbo prop pilots anymore! I mean, my mom could explain the Saab electrical system it was so easy. :rolleyes:


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