Pncl career progression to Delta
 

It seems quiet around here lately with the pncl mec announcing the negotiations of a possible career progression agreement with Delta. How does this effect your views of the negotiations? Is it just another carrot or would this seal the deal for a concessionary TA?

Flows are horrible, the only thing we should be negotiating for is preferential interviews.

I'll believe it when I see it. Preferential interviews would certainly be nice.

I'd like to hear what DL pilots and DL HR think of a flow from PCL.

Career progression doesn't have to be a flow, it could be a guaranteed interview just like CP has...gives Delta a constant stream of applicants but they still get to pick who they want.

Agreed. I have been hearing flow talk elsewhere.

Our management and union can negotiate anything they want. The catch is what will the Delta management and DALPA agree to. I would never base a vote for a TA based on a flow. The Mesaba one was great until you found out you'd never get called.

After talking to Delta jumpseaters I'm not certain a late 40's to mid 50's capt with 10k hours plus would be welcome. In fact on more than one occasion I was told they'd rather hire a zero time person and train them up, instead of me. Have to admit its hard for me to get too excited about a flow.

I seriously doubt that Delta would start a flow program with PNCL because they worked so hard to eliminate the flow with Mesaba and Compass. I could see a guaranteed interview program like we have at Compass. Some of the stipulations we have are that you must have a four year degree, have passed the Delta-style testing, and a recommendation from our CP's Office. They also will have you sign a document so that they will be able to look at your attendance record.

An interview I would be okay with... a flow, 100% absolutely not!

Flows are horrible. You have to wait for your seniority number to come up. It's all about who you know and your connections. Anyone else remember expressjet when people would quit so they could get hired at cal without waiting for their number in the flow?