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TeddyKGB 12-13-2012 05:50 PM
Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1311306)
Yes and no, it's not like a flow system where you are restricted from getting a job out of seniority order.
They call pull junior pilots to interview ahead of senior pilots?

filejw 12-13-2012 06:03 PM
Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1311267)
I think it's BS that airline management would do that. And to clarify, I'm NOT calling BS on your statement. I just think it stinks to assume that one would have difficulty training or adapting to an SIC role simply because of their duration in the left seat. :mad:
There have been a few folks that had a hard time adjusting to being an FO...

Mesabah 12-13-2012 06:05 PM
Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1311321)
They call pull junior pilots to interview ahead of senior pilots?
If you file an app your chances are the same as anyone else. Then it becomes who you know. With the flow, you have to quit Pinnacle before you can be hired. One guy at Mesaba who was junior to you gambled with this and got hired at Delta. He was well connected as well.

MunkyButtr 12-13-2012 06:14 PM
As a first officer I am more concerned about my insurance and take home pay than I am a preferential interview. I'd rather have my doctor bills covered than be a quota number. 35% is an awfully low number. A preferential interview or a flow through given Delta's history will not sway me to vote yes if those other items aren't addressed.

fatsopilot 12-13-2012 07:44 PM
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1311039)
An interview I would be okay with... a flow, 100% absolutely not!
Why not? If all the pilots of the DCI carriers are good enough to fly Delta's customers around then what is the big deal? Especially pilots in the same Union you are a member of.

Erdude32 12-13-2012 07:57 PM
If a flow or pref interview program is agreed upon, get them to put it in writing on toilet paper....then at least it has a useful purpose!

boxmover 12-14-2012 01:29 AM
? What makes you say that flows are bad?

Thanks

johnso29 12-14-2012 05:25 AM
Originally Posted by boxmover (Post 1311496)
? What makes you say that flows are bad?

Thanks
Here's one resason why some people think a flow is bad. Typically, airlines will not fill the entire class with flows. The number of flows per class is generally limited. This prevents a crippling effect on the regional the pilots are flowing from due to large amounts of attrition. That in turn hurts the feed of the airline the pilots are flowing to as well.

So, if one has to wait for their flow number while hiring off the street occurs said individual could lose hundreds of seniority numbers to those being hired off the street.

G2TT 12-14-2012 05:49 AM
Originally Posted by fatsopilot (Post 1311428)
Why not? If all the pilots of the DCI carriers are good enough to fly Delta's customers around then what is the big deal? Especially pilots in the same Union you are a member of.
Because you haven't passed the top secret Double Breasted Suit Buttoning test.

N2Core 12-14-2012 08:19 AM
Originally Posted by fatsopilot (Post 1311428)
Why not? If all the pilots of the DCI carriers are good enough to fly Delta's customers around then what is the big deal? Especially pilots in the same Union you are a member of.
I've always wondered this same thing... I'm good enough to fly Delta's customers, but not for Delta?


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