If Moak and the gang at DALPA are offering you guys and gals at Pinnacle promises of negotiating a path of career progression to Delta, be extremely cautious and skeptical of what they tell you.

They strung the CMR MEC (post JC, of course) along for years with empty promises of negotiating a flow/staple/pref hire to Delta. I was always skeptical of this and somehow had a 6th sense that we were being lied to. Turns out, unfortunately, that i was right and they were just trying to beat the clock, which they did successfully since Comair isn't around any longer. After Moak secured our vote for his election and other issues at the 2010 BOD in FLL, we became expendable and were essentially cut loose, but they continued to string us along with empty promises and false hopes.

PCL pilots, be very, very cautious and careful if they are offering to negotiate a path of career progression to Delta with you.

There won't be a flow for us. Preferential hiring and that's only a rubber stamp.

I think it's BS that airline management would do that. And to clarify, I'm NOT calling BS on your statement. I just think it stinks to assume that one would have difficulty training or adapting to an SIC role simply because of their duration in the left seat. :mad:

Don't you also have to wait for your # to come up with a guaranteed interview? It seems like the most senior would be offered interviews 1st. How does it work with CZ? How do they schedule the guaranteed interviews? Seniority order I would assume.

I guess that all depends on personality. Most are good with no problems being a FO again. However, there are a select few who would have a very hard time being right seaters because of their attitude/ego.

Seniority order, 3 years with company, meet all Delta mins, rec. from CP, and your entire employee file available for review.

Remember the PCL pilots have not ruffled the feathers of Delta like JC did. JC and the Comair pilots learned what my big brother told me numerous times payback is a Bit##.

Sure, I can see that. If their attitude stinks, then that should be why they're turned down.

Unfortunately, a handful of guys effed it up for the rest of us. It's an effen shame.

I was fortunate enough to be at the MEC meeting where JC buckled under pressure and resigned. I know subsequent MECs worked their arses off to mend things with the Delta boys but I think too much damage had been done by a few bad apples.

I can also proudly say that's the same day I started volunteering to do ALPA work and continued to do so until the day I left Comair a couple of years ago.

Yes and no, it's not like a flow system where you are restricted from getting a job out of seniority order.