Someone asked a question very similar to this during the road show today. It sounded like you have to come back from your leave to use your ssp interview. I am not a 100% but I don't think you can be on the leave and then go interview. I would e-mail the p2p alpa people to clarify. If you do in fact come back you would have at one time been a captain so you would be eligible. The chances are though if it has moved that far down the list that you would be senior enough to be a captain. They explained that it starts at the top of the list and works it way down the list. Given the current TA I don't see a lot of people passing up the opportunity to go to Delta, if they go and you move up you would more than likely be a captain. I can't see 400 or more guys saying no to the interview and it making it down to the FO's who have never upgraded.

Well then there it is, it must be so.

You come back when you figure out you're wrong, mmmmmk.

Too bad the fence is based on seat positions on the CRJ900, not the bases. ATL closing is irrelevant. 279 Mesaba and 95 Pinnacle Captains.

so basically, if you are a captain now and you arent in the top 400 that will be at the end of state, you either need to take an loa or just wait YEARS for another chance to be eligible to move to delta. When they move through the first 1000 or so captains, i bet at least 300 or so wont be eligible to go to DL for lack of a degree, dui, or something. So that leaves about 100 revolving door captain positions for everyone else to wait for. They def need to clarify this. once again, the lifers will ruin it for everyone. sugar melts and **** floats.....

And then more and more of the future lifers will log jam up those last 400 positions.

I wouldn't be too optimistic of the outcome of this. And after the contract becomes amendable, its all over... they just did this to lock in 1999 9E payrates for CAs.

Q: What is the wind down plan for the 200’s, and what is the plan for furloughs?

We have been told that all of the 200’s will be gone by the end of 2014, but we have not yet seen a fleet plan that embodies that end state. We have also been told that the 200’s will wind down “over the course of the next 2 to 3 years.” The lack of precision leads us to conclude that the final plan for the wind down has not yet been determined, and may be subject to change depending on fuel and on the economy. We have been definitively told that 200’s won’t start leaving the property before June of 2013.

With respect to furloughs, the company has told us that no furloughs will occur before April 2013. The total number of furloughs anticipated is between 100 and 150. The final number is dependent upon attrition over the next few months as well as the number of pilots voluntarily taking leaves. These are the ONLY furloughs that are expected during 2013.

The current staffing plan includes about another 150 furloughs in the early part of 2014, with the remainder of the furloughs coming in 2015. The total number of projected furloughs number between 500 and 600, with the actual number dependent on attrition and voluntary leaves, and the fleet composition. It is worth emphasizing that the farther these projections go out, the less certain they become, and that while we believe the 2013 projections are solid, the numbers thereafter are subject to change.

Q: When will the additional CRJ 900’s be delivered?

We expect that 12 CRJ 900’s will be delivered in the 4th quarter of 2013, and the remaining 26 will all be delivered in 2014.

Q: When will the company post another Realignment Notice?

We will answer this question in two parts. First, we just learned that the company plans to post a single class vacancy Notice during the week between Christmas and New Years that is primarily designed to increase the number of CRJ 900 First Officers by a number between 10 and 20, but may also include a small number of CRJ 900 Captains. The projected class date is February 4.

Regarding the next large Realignment Notice, the company has told us that it plans to post the Notice in the second half of January, and the Notice will include the displacement of all remaining turbo-prop pilots as well as the Atlanta wind down.

These numbers are based on the continuing trend of junior FO's bailing to the other regionals rather than sticking around waiting to be furloughed. The only reason Pinnacle hasn't had voluntary furloughs yet is because of the training bubble and over 500 people bailing for Skywest, Expressjet, Silver, PSA and RAH. Those numbers are complete crap if no one leaves from the current list of 2449.

There will not be people leaving from the top as there is not going to be a lot of movement to the majors for 2013. Delta is overstaffed, United now has to recall furloughs, American has to recall furloughs and if the Airways merger goes through, Airways-American will be overstaffed once furloughs are brought back.

The furloughs will be in the hundreds in 2013 alone if no one leaves from the bottom.

So Delta is overstaffed, it might be right now but with the introduction of a new fleet type, replacing NB with new 737-900 and transferring over 10% of domestic feed to mainline they will no longer be overstaffed!

If Delta sees 100's furloughs from Pinnacle why would they offer the protections they are offering such as pay, healthcare and such that cost money for an employee not contributing to revenue.

The -200 will be gone as the 717 arrives and you will see the new -900 enter service, this is all a ratio and there is a schedule. The 717 arrives at Delta late summer, the new CRJ arrive at pinnacle in the latter part of 2013 shortly after the -200 start being parked. It's all a ratio!!! There is more than is being said, I don't have a dog in this fight but I am at Eagle and we have a similar situation!

Also, the CRJ900's can be delivered on a 1:1.25 ratio with the B717's. So if Delta intends to have all 40 CRJ900's to 9e by the end of 2014 Delta must first have 50 B717's online. Previous plans indicated we'd have 32 online by the end of 2014. So I don't know if they intend to accelerate the B717 deliveries, or slow the CRJ900's.

Because if everyone leaves too quickly, they will not be able to have an orderly wind down. Its the same reason they gave money to people at Comair to stick it out till the end. If the entire 1600 pilots were to leave quickly to the other regionals, Pinnacle would be unable to operate. $6,000 (for most of the pilot group) and 3 months @ guarantee with insurance is chump change compared to canceling hundreds of flights a day.

Look at the numbers PilotAnalyst has put up on his website and you will see that there will not be much movement in the majors until 2014. Delta has even said there will be no hiring in 2013 of pilots.