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WhiteH2O 11-15-2006 07:05 PM

Less than 100 Multi...
 
What regional airlines are hiring pilots with less than 100 hours multi?
I know of Great Lakes, but are there any others?

I am not asking if you think that people should hire pilots with less than 100 me, or if they are good airlines, I am just trying to figgure out who hiring these pilots.

reevesofskyking 11-15-2006 07:15 PM

I think that is a good question
I dont have any real answers for you though

jdr7225 11-15-2006 07:20 PM

You may wanna try Scenic Air out in Vegas. I don't even think they have a "minimum."

FlyerJosh 11-15-2006 07:27 PM

I know for a fact that AWAC has hired folks with less than 100 ME. I've heard that Comair and Mesa have as well.

AirWillie 11-15-2006 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 81182)
What regional airlines are hiring pilots with less than 100 hours multi?
I know of Great Lakes, but are there any others?

You don't want to go to GL, 15 bucks an hour is just not worth it when there are so many other options.

WhiteH2O 11-16-2006 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by AirWillie (Post 81251)
You don't want to go to GL, 15 bucks an hour is just not worth it when there are so many other options.

That is the point to this thread. What are these options?

reevesofskyking 11-16-2006 04:43 AM

I thought I have heard that AWC is no longer hiring below mins.
I could be wrong on this one. I will look into it more today and any more info would be nice AWC and their current hiring practices.

I was going to say that I heard comair would too, but that was this thread
I just emailed mine down to comair and let you know if I hear anything back

reeves

rcbullock 11-16-2006 04:53 AM

Tsa
 
Got hired with 24 multi. Had 1180 or so total and 1700+ as a navigator, don't know if that makes a difference or not. I imagine the total time was a factor that helped as they hired with lower total but higher multi.

Interviewed in October. January class date.

reevesofskyking 11-16-2006 05:00 AM

I would say that would have a big factor in it.

I and I would imangine that Shaun is the run of the mill low time pilot looking for a 121 job.

I could be wrong on that though

reeves

jrmyl 11-16-2006 07:19 AM

Comair has lowered their min's officially to 600/1 but from what I hear they will interview anyone with a commercial license.

reevesofskyking 11-16-2006 07:21 AM

Well that is good news
I just emailed my resume down there this morning
is there a better to submit my resume

Reeves

freezingflyboy 11-16-2006 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by reevesofskyking (Post 81351)
Well that is good news
I just emailed my resume down there this morning
is there a better to submit my resume

Reeves

Don't know that I would go that far...:rolleyes:

WhiteH2O 11-16-2006 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by reevesofskyking (Post 81281)
I and I would imangine that Shaun is the run of the mill low time pilot looking for a 121 job.

I have been found out. I am a CFI with 550tt and 40me.

This instructor thing just isn't for me. I would rather be building time at a regional.

jrmyl 11-16-2006 08:04 AM

Come on over Shaun. The way I look at it, whether you have 40 or 400 me if you can pass the sim checks then you are trained to the same standard.

WhiteH2O 11-16-2006 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by jrmyl (Post 81376)
Come on over Shaun. The way I look at it, whether you have 40 or 400 me if you can pass the sim checks then you are trained to the same standard.

I'll send in a resume. Thanks for the pointer.

Skyranger777 11-16-2006 08:31 AM

Apply and send out apps to any and all regionals. See who bites and then make your decisions. From what i have seen FO's are in pretty high demand right now so you have a good chance of getting several calls. When it comes to the sim check, as long as you can nail all the call outs and fly single engine everything to ATP standards you can pass it. Just make sure that your instrument skills are up to par because as far as I have seen that will be the first thing that will wash you out

soon2bfo 11-16-2006 08:34 AM

I've had several of my friends go over to Scenic. The sim isn't cake, but if you get the job they said it is a fun place to work, relaxed rules and good management. One in particular went to SkyWest and they didn't even give them a sim ride. The interview was: tell us about a time when... what would you do if... (whips out an approach plate) where is the faf? When would you like to start? Whole thing over in 15 mins or less after the written.

reevesofskyking 11-16-2006 08:35 AM

Shaun I was not trying to single you out and make you look like a jackass or anything
I am damn near in the same boat plus 100 hours total time

Reeves

freezingflyboy 11-16-2006 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 81374)
I have been found out. I am a CFI with 550tt and 40me.

This instructor thing just isn't for me. I would rather be building time at a regional.

Boo Hoo...Everyone would rather "build time" in a shiny RJ with 50 paying folks in the back and a flight attendant to bring you a coke. Be sure to tell the interviewers that you want the job cause its a good place for "building time":rolleyes:

WhiteH2O 11-16-2006 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 81494)
Boo Hoo...Everyone would rather "build time" in a shiny RJ with 50 paying folks in the back and a flight attendant to bring you a coke. Be sure to tell the interviewers that you want the job cause its a good place for "building time":rolleyes:

This from someone flying a shiny RJ. Plus, who is even talking about a RJ? Some of these airlines fly B1900s. Ya know, Turboprops.

Ya, I guess you are right. I should instruct until i have enough time to apply to a major.

And, yes, the ONLY reason that I want to fly an airplane bigger than a 152 is so that I can have someone bring me refreshments.

I think that most regionals know most of their pilots are there to build time. They aren't stupid.

freezingflyboy 11-16-2006 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 81517)
Ya, I guess you are right. I should instruct until i have enough time to apply to a major.

And, yes, the ONLY reason that I want to fly an airplane bigger than a 152 is so that I can have someone bring me refreshments.

Dumb@$$

I think that most regionals know most of their pilots are there to build time. They aren't stupid.

Whoa, touchy there buddy. Who wiped a booger on your windshield? No one is saying don't apply. You can go apply all day long. Just drop the entitlement attitude. I love the way you make it sound like you deserve to be in an RJ rather than teaching guys how to fly a pattern. I guess thats because instructing is beneath you, right? Ever thought that the instructor thing isn't for you because you are tripping over yourself to get into an RJ? Maybe if you spent more time making instructing fun and less time drawing pictures of RJs with your name painted under the window then you might enjoy instructing a little more.

PS
Your attitude ROCKS, dumb@ss:rolleyes:

WhiteH2O 11-16-2006 03:14 PM

Oh, brother. I guess I will go back and continue drawing pictures of RJs with my name on them then.

Anymore usefull information from anyone?

MWright 11-16-2006 03:15 PM

No need for anyone to over interpret what anyone says here. I rarely participate in these discussions due to the fact that everything I say will be misinterpreted horribly.

The guy came to you all, who know so much, asking a simple question. He said, "The instructing thing isn't for me" and that he wanted to move to the regionals.

Give him a break.

Let's all remember that all of us here in the regional section don't have much reason to be cocky. I fly a Citation (let me beat you guys to the point, a slow-tation; you got me), and I'm in the same boat.

Were all just trying to make it here somehow.

WhiteH2O 11-16-2006 03:19 PM

Thanks MWright.

I really don't feel like I have an entitlement attitude. I have worked very hard to be where I am, just like everyone else. I plan on going to interviews and doing my best, and hoping that it is what they are looking for. No one owes me anything (but I do owe the bank, doh!)

I still can't find out where I showed an entitlement attitude. Please point it out so that I can change it, I don't want to be that guy.

MWright 11-16-2006 03:22 PM

This will bring about a ton of hateful messages but I will say it anyway.

There are a few people one here with terrible attitudes, and even more who hate low time guys like us. I'm not going to name names b/c I would be immediately banished from the forum.

Luckily, most of them stay pretty quiet.

jdr7225 11-16-2006 04:12 PM

We are all just guys and gals trying to make it in the world. Gotta love it. :D

SimCheckGuy 11-16-2006 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by jrmyl (Post 81376)
Come on over Shaun. The way I look at it, whether you have 40 or 400 me if you can pass the sim checks then you are trained to the same standard.

Comair Doesn't have a Sim Check

reevesofskyking 11-16-2006 05:22 PM

Shaun

like the others have said, dont worry what someone else here says,
in your own mind you can find the info useful or not.

Look out for youself in the near term. get some time in just like I am going to have to, and then you start the give back game.

There has been some really nice and helpful people and not so helpful people that have replied to me, but at the end of the day there is no one but me that pays my mortgage.

I would say dont change a thing on how you behave here, speak you mind.

I dont really see a thing wrong with what you said, but again, I am nearly in the same boat.

Reeves

reelbigchair 11-16-2006 05:56 PM

Most airlines are sticklers for the 100 multi, but in recent history Skyway, Trans States, and Air Whiskey, have all taken pilots in with under a hundred. Mesa has taken some that didn't have it, but were close. To anyone trying to figure out where to send their resume who has less than a hundred..... my best advice is to send them to where you want to go, and not worry about it. Airlines are notorious for ignoring their mins if they're desperate enough. I would also like to warn the guy that said "teaching just isn't for him" that airlines really like guys who have actually been a professional pilot in some fashion. Just going out there and buying time can work, but it's bound to get brought up on your interview, and it won't look good.

WhiteH2O 11-16-2006 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by reelbigchair (Post 81607)
I would also like to warn the guy that said "teaching just isn't for him" that airlines really like guys who have actually been a professional pilot in some fashion.

I almost didn't post this after I wrote it because I bet that no one will care, but here it is anyways:



Perhaps I should expand on what I meant when I said that "instructing isn't for me". This isn't a sob story or anything, just trying to clear the air. People take EVERYTHING out of context, so I am ready for someone to take this out of context as well.

I have been instructing for a while. I am currently instructing. I look at the other instructors and see that most students would learn better from the other instructors. There are some students that I really work well with, but I don't think they learn as much from me. I get along with them well, but I have never been the world's best teacher. They made me a teacher's aid in high school for photography because I was good at it. They found out that just because you know something, doesn't mean that you can teach.

Anyways, there are some instructors that would rather instruct for a while building time to get to a good regional, but I would rather not instruct, I would rather work at a less desirable regional to build the time I need to go somewhere desirable. Plus, where I instruct, I could make much more money even at places like Great Lakes than I am instructing.

Anyways, that is why I am wondering who is hiring people with low multi time pilots.

reevesofskyking 11-16-2006 06:23 PM

I still do not think you question has been answered all that well just yet

AirWillie 11-16-2006 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 81374)
I have been found out. I am a CFI with 550tt and 40me.

This instructor thing just isn't for me. I would rather be building time at a regional.

You've got to be joking me, scary that there are people just like you that actually get hired and are flying right now, the difference is they bought the job. What gives you the right to "build" time with 40 hours multi engine? You have to change your attitude and get some experience before you think hauling 50 poor folks at a regional is building time.

WhiteH2O 11-16-2006 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by reevesofskyking (Post 81621)
I still do not think you question has been answered all that well just yet

Nope, just more of the same.

Here is another "Bad Attitude" post.

reelbigchair 11-16-2006 10:20 PM

I said this a few posts ago, but I guess you missed it seeing as you said no one answered the question...... Trans States, Skyway, Air Wisconsin, and Mesa. These are probably your best bets for letting you slide by without 100 multi. However, go ahead and send resumes/apps just about anywhere, you never know.

WhiteH2O 11-16-2006 10:32 PM

I think I did miss it somehow, thanks for reposting.

So, Trans States, Skyway, Air Wisconsin, and Mesa. I think that I can add Comair. Perhaps American Eagle? I know they are getting desperate. There is always Great Lakes, but not as a first choice. I don't think Mesa sounds great, they go to the bottom of my list, I think.

Anyone know about CommutAir or Colgan?

This is looking better than I thought it would.

StillInstructin 11-17-2006 03:38 AM

Piedmont if you want to fly Dash-8s

jrmyl 11-17-2006 04:13 AM


Originally Posted by SimCheckGuy (Post 81557)
Comair Doesn't have a Sim Check

I wasn't speaking of the hiring process, I was speaking of the actual training program and the sim checkride

freezingflyboy 11-17-2006 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 81664)
I think I did miss it somehow, thanks for reposting.

So, Trans States, Skyway, Air Wisconsin, and Mesa. I think that I can add Comair. Perhaps American Eagle? I know they are getting desperate. There is always Great Lakes, but not as a first choice. I don't think Mesa sounds great, they go to the bottom of my list, I think.

Anyone know about CommutAir or Colgan?

This is looking better than I thought it would.

I think I'd rather get a rectal exam from a guy with fat fingers than work at Great Mistakes:rolleyes:

kansas 11-17-2006 06:47 AM

Anywhere you have a connection on the inside is worth applying to. If someone will walk your resume in, those are probably your best bets, regardless of their minimums.


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 81723)
I think I'd rather get a rectal exam from a guy with fat fingers than work at Great Mistakes:rolleyes:

Currently, those that make the "Great Mistake" of coming here are moving on to bigger and better things rather quickly.

DMBinHBurg 11-17-2006 07:19 AM

"Piedmont if you want to fly Dash-8s"

Unless you are coming from a flight school such as UND/Purdue/Riddle, I was told Piedmont won't look at you untill you have 1500TT/500Multi.


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