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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
(Post 1324048)
Is he still eligible to flow up?
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So I guess Eagle are hiring 601 pilots in 2013! :D
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Originally Posted by flynwmn
(Post 1323633)
If we wouldnt be stupid about overdoing it the night before. We only did it to ourselves. Which seems to happen a lot in this industry.
"We" didn't do it. Companies can attempt to have any sort of behavior control policies they want, but the FAA rule is based on being free from the effects after 8 hours (which is a reasonable assumption in the case of light casual drinking). If the FAA were to extend the rule they would be getting into behavior control...AOPA at least would never sit still for that :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by HercDriver130
(Post 1324042)
Oh so the fact that he was IN the airplane ...............he is in a world of dog poop.
They (cops) always let them board the aircraft. Contrary to popular belief around here is there is NO law in any state against being drunk at an airport, being drunk in uniform, or coming to work drunk. The law says you can't operate (or in many places "control" or "possess") a vehicle. More than one allegedly drunk pilot got off the hook, after being confronted at security, by claiming they had to come to airport to use the ops phone to call in sick and then nonrev home, or somesuch. The cops assigned to the airports wised up. TSA is in on it too, even though any smurf worth his salt is drooling and about to piddle himself at the prospect of collaring a drunk pilot, they all know they have to keep a straight face and call the cops after you head to the gate. |
Originally Posted by Jughead
(Post 1324035)
I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure the mouthwash defense isn't going to cut it. Mouthwash might get you off the legal hook (if you can pass a blood test), but it won't help with the DOT test...if you blow, it counts. You can't have alcohol in your system for any reason, even on your breath. I don't think the DOT program even uses a blood test, I think they just go with the breathalyzer? |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 1324136)
They (cops) always let them board the aircraft. Contrary to popular belief around here is there is NO law in any state against being drunk at an airport, being drunk in uniform, or coming to work drunk.
The law says you can't operate (or in many places "control" or "possess") a vehicle. More than one allegedly drunk pilot got off the hook, after being confronted at security, by claiming they had to come to airport to use the ops phone to call in sick and then nonrev home, or somesuch. The cops assigned to the airports wised up. TSA is in on it too, even though any smurf worth his salt is drooling and about to piddle himself at the prospect of collaring a drunk pilot, they all know they have to keep a straight face and call the cops after you head to the gate. |
Originally Posted by citxls
(Post 1324178)
I thought they confronted him in an elevator not on the plane. In which case he could say he was going to call in sick and decided not to stay at the hotel. Didn't know he actually made it to the plane.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 1324141)
Mouthwash might get you off the legal hook (if you can pass a blood test), but it won't help with the DOT test...if you blow, it counts. You can't have alcohol in your system for any reason, even on your breath.
I don't think the DOT program even uses a blood test, I think they just go with the breathalyzer? |
Originally Posted by iceman49
(Post 1324192)
I believe a blood test was conducted at a local hospital.
That's normal for DUI, basically a follow up to confirm and strengthen the case in addition to breathalyzer and field sobriety assessments. It's not part of the DOT program. If you blow positive due to mouthwash on a DOT test, game over as far as 121 goes. |
Originally Posted by Phuz
(Post 1324188)
No they noticed him on the elevator and followed him to the plane.
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