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Tinpusher007 01-15-2013 07:14 AM

Here we go again with that. DL was already at the point of shutting us down until this deal was crafted. They may not care about us personally but that doesnt make them stupid. They are not going to spend north of $100 million to keep us alive offer us jobs in a signed contract, give us cash payments and buy ATPs for F/Os that get furloughed and give them 2 yrs pass benefits only to shut the place down in a years time. If they wanted this place shut down, thats what would have happened. They were already to that point!

Justdoinmyjob 01-15-2013 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 1330563)
They are not going to spend north of $100 million to keep us alive offer us jobs in a signed contract, give us cash payments and buy ATPs for F/Os that get furloughed and give them 2 yrs pass benefits only to shut the place down in a years time. If they wanted this place shut down, thats what would have happened. They were already to that point!


Yeah, because they didn't spend what? one billion dollars on Comair only to eventually shut them down, or sell ASA at a loss to Skywest.

MyMamma 01-15-2013 07:48 AM

Darn it! You beat me to it

Will 01-15-2013 07:54 AM

The only difference is the contract ASA and Comair worked under. Delta would of closed the doors on us but this LOA will put us at the price point they want.

Tinpusher007 01-15-2013 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1330621)
Yeah, because they didn't spend what? one billion dollars on Comair only to eventually shut them down, or sell ASA at a loss to Skywest.

That is an apples to oranges comparison. First, Comair and ASA were purchased for different reasons and by different management. Comair and ASA were bought because they were considered valuable. Second, DL is not buying us because they want to own us. They are the de facto owners because they are the only source of money that we have. Pinnacle is flat broke, hence, ch. 11. You also have to look at the time frame between those purchases and ASA being sold and Comair being shut down. Im not saying Pinnacle will have an indefinite future. I am saying DL wont be shutting us down in a year.

tom14cat14 01-15-2013 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1330621)
Yeah, because they didn't spend what? one billion dollars on Comair only to eventually shut them down, or sell ASA at a loss to Skywest.

Do you think they bought them knowing they were going to loose? I think they wanted to making money with them and maybe they just failed. How long did Delta own each airline? Did both airlines run at a loss the whole time Delta owned them? I do not know what the financials of those airlines but I am guessing they made money at some point while they were owned by Delta.

BlueMoon 01-15-2013 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1329527)
Haha get a clue dude. Some of us don't have another regional in our future. Who cares what happens to another airline.

Some of you don't, but there are many that do.

PBSG 01-15-2013 08:43 AM

Have you guys no respect? A MAINLINE guy came all the way from the Majors section to us lowly Regional scumbags to bestow all of his wisdom. I'm so embarrassed to be associated with you people.

Please kind sir - I apologize. Go ahead and teach us all you know!

Also - do you have any of those "United Against Outsourcing" stickers laying around? I sure would like a couple.

JoeyMeatballs 01-15-2013 09:20 AM

I like how DMEarc states he simply just applied at CAL and they called, lol. We all know it doesn't work like that buddy. I also don't appreciate him calling all of us "regional FO Pukes", really? The term Puke, I assume is a military jargon for someone beneath you, but it just makes me cringe everytime I hear it. Bottom line is DMEArc went from Colgan to CAL in 3 years, and I find it a tad but hypocritical that he bashes some for giving their opinion, yet he makes his own thread based of his opinion

Anyway, I agree with most of what he said, but the whole "from a United mainliner" was extremely tacky and douchey.

ShyGuy 01-15-2013 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 1330779)
I like how DMEarc states he simply just applied at CAL and they called, lol. We all know it doesn't work like that buddy. I also don't appreciate him calling all of us "regional FO Pukes", really? The term Puke, I assume is a military jargon for someone beneath you, but it just makes me cringe everytime I hear it. Bottom line is DMEArc went from Colgan to CAL in 3 years, and I find it a tad but hypocritical that he bashes some for giving their opinion, yet he makes his own thread based of his opinion

Anyway, I agree with most of what he said, but the whole "from a United mainliner" was extremely tacky and douchey.

Actually, it did work like that, even in the 2004-2007 hiring cycle. If he went from Colgan to CAL in 3 years, props to him.


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