Sorry hit the send too many times..

No problem, if you ever need a recommendation into a selective 4 year degree program like yours truly went through, I'll be more than happy to write you a recommendation, so that you may be competitive for one of those many competitive Delta/FEDEX/SWA/AA/UAL... And yeah with your double post, I thought you were on something, that recommendation letter was gonna be sloppy... Come on dude get it together...

Might take you up on that.......not!......take care

No hard feelings... Let's just interview together for the same job then.... Take care...

None here either. Got to get the interview first. But if you get the job before me I can live with that..

Maybe I am wrong here but having a degree does not change a persons character. If you are good person, a good pilot having a degree will not change who you are. I have doubts a 4 year degree makes a person smarter. But having a degree sets you apart from other people. You have taken the time, the money and improved on your education, and now can check the box. In a way it's just a way to weed people out. Do I think it's the best way No but I am not in charge. Lot's of companies besides Delta require a degree to advance, is it fair no is it reality yes. Do I think pilots should have a degree Yes. If everybody else has to have a degree to get hired at Delta so should PCL pilots. Everybody wants things to be fair but just a little fairer for themselves. Rant over.

Point taken. OTOH, its kind of funny that what we're really arguing much of the time is that we deserve to have our pay raised to the levels of many non degreed professions. There are tons of plumber, electrician, auto mechanic, bus driver, trash collector, etc jobs that pay far, far in excess of many tens of thousands of professional airline pilot jobs in this country.

Even though I'm a strong critic of the value of degrees in the general population (today's college degree is yesterday's high school diploma thanks to the insane drive for eevry single person to get one as a government entitlement) I'm "pro degree" WRT pilot hiring simply as a means to set and maintain some pitance of a barrier of entry beyond the ratings. The 1500 (ish) hour limits will help a little bit in some circumstances, but we need more or we will all suffer from the bottom up price drain from wages. SJS/pay-for-upgrade/etc isn't just a regional problem. The AMA, ATLA and others keep their pay up for many of their members in large part by setting up and enforcing arbitrary barriers to entry and in some cases limiting the flow into the profession outright.

We need to fight tooth and nail the constant push for this to be a 300 hour "from high school to flight school" career.