Lolut,

I agree with some of the things you are saying, what some employers are looking for and how they come up with who they interview. The problem I see is a four year degree has nothing to do with being a good, professional, ethical pilot. A proven track record, experience and the hard work he or she went through to get there (121 airline etc) is what they are actually hiring you for.

Do I think getting a degree is important? You bet I do. I want my kids to get one and then some. I just think it's way over rated. You and others seem to put the degree regardless of what its in over the years of hard work in getting the ratings, licences and aquiring that experience.

I plan on finishing my degree someday and I do value it but a degree in business, basket weaving or the arts doesnt make you a better pilot than anyone with it. Kinda like the person driving the Mercedes in the Hamptons thinking they are better than the person driving the pinto. The guy with the pinto is a commuter flying for a regional and has kids and a wife he is trying to support while hes waiting on that upgrade and wants his wife to stay home with the kids instead of sending them to day care.


No thats not me but I have seen many in similar circumstances. Generalizing is a mistake. If the policy requires a degree then thats their policy.

Wtmf.. Why does ever pilot with NO degree think that every pilot WITH a degree has one in either underwater basket weaving or arts??? Myself and most pilots I have flown with have a degree in Aviation, engineering, mathematics, chemistry, biology or some other sort of degree that would get you into God Damn med school.... l have NEVER, flown with a pilot that had a degree in such a bullSwitch degree as in basket weaving or Arts.... Again Never, so give it up losers... So shut the F up with all pilot have degrees in basket weaving, arts, or interior designing... Great way to help yourself sleep at night....

Well choose your fat chick at the bar more selectively... Btw, usually the fatter one makes more money than you'll ever make.... So problem solved.

Swamp,

It was an example. Meaning if a degree is required any major is accepted since not specified, ie arts, dancing, engineering and basket weaving. It doesnt matter. Your Aviation degree is just a hair above basket weaving which is what Ill have when I finish.

I still cant figure out the hostility over this issue...

Swamp

Because most do what it takes to check the box. What they got it in doesnt matter. Sorry.

SWAMP

Are you on something?

Swamp

Are you on something?

I put in a lot of years at Express I/Pinnacle and shared some of that time in MEM with the NorthMississippiFlyingClub boys. By and large the vast majority were good folks that were a pleasure to fly with. Some may have been unpolished or perhaps even (for lack of a better term) somewhat "unsophisticated", but I can't remember flying with any that were incompetent or dangerous aviators. In fact a good many of them came up through the traditional civilian ranks putting in countless hours as crop dusters or flying small plane freight etc. before ever flying in the 121 enviroment. Every one got through one of the most hostile and arbritrary training departments I can imagine, where failing an applicant was worn like a badge of honor. In general most of those guys that I flew with were great stick and rudder aviators.

If you had such a problem with these guys being dangerous aviators, I can only assume you did the right thing and brought their inadequacies up with the professional standards board.

I get your point about skipping prerequisite hiring minimums, but it seems that isn't the only problem you are harboring towards your former colleagues coming on board at Delta.

Dude come on. Relax.... In one night I've hated on 80 knots - the regional hater, and you, legend - the hater of - the ambition young aviator that wants to get a secondary education to be more competitive.... damnit I love being an over educated regional puke!!! Relax guys, we coulda been born Muslim.....sh1t there's more I insulted and really dont care....

Ok. Thanks for your insight!