Go! as bad as GoJets
11-19-2006 | 05:11 PM
#11
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Actually your info is a bit off.
At Go! 1st year FO will be gaurenteed $20748
At GoJet 1st FO is Guarenteed $19320
2nd year is even worse with the Mesa scum making $25,480
and the BLOjet'er making a horrific $21,000
You're forgetting Mesa works on a 28 day bid so there are 13 bids in a year not 12.
GoJet is by far a inferior operation compared to Mesa.
150 pilots vs. 2000 one aircraft type, no where to go in the company, very few bases. And the pilots were contract busters, not that the original freedom guys did not do the same thing.
This is actually why the Mesa contract sucks so bad, and was a terrific history lesson the tailpipes over at TSA who crossed the line should of learned. When the company offers you a chance to move up by screwing your brothers you will all take it in the end period! Don't do it.
At Go! 1st year FO will be gaurenteed $20748
At GoJet 1st FO is Guarenteed $19320
2nd year is even worse with the Mesa scum making $25,480
and the BLOjet'er making a horrific $21,000
You're forgetting Mesa works on a 28 day bid so there are 13 bids in a year not 12.
GoJet is by far a inferior operation compared to Mesa.
150 pilots vs. 2000 one aircraft type, no where to go in the company, very few bases. And the pilots were contract busters, not that the original freedom guys did not do the same thing.
This is actually why the Mesa contract sucks so bad, and was a terrific history lesson the tailpipes over at TSA who crossed the line should of learned. When the company offers you a chance to move up by screwing your brothers you will all take it in the end period! Don't do it.
11-19-2006 | 05:33 PM
#12
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11-19-2006 | 08:57 PM
#13
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From: Corsair pilot wannabe
"Jumpseat agreement"?? What the ****** are you talking about? Any 121 company has the opportunity to request a jumpseat on my aircraft. The great thing is, I get to say HELL NO whenever I choose. Did it twice last week to two different Mesa affiliated pilots, and I'll keep doin' it until I retire.
Choose to work for a terrible company that does nothing but weaken the industry AND the pilot profession, and you'll pay for it your whole career. That's a fact.
Choose to work for a terrible company that does nothing but weaken the industry AND the pilot profession, and you'll pay for it your whole career. That's a fact.
11-20-2006 | 08:31 PM
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"Jumpseat agreement"?? What the ****** are you talking about? Any 121 company has the opportunity to request a jumpseat on my aircraft. The great thing is, I get to say HELL NO whenever I choose. Did it twice last week to two different Mesa affiliated pilots, and I'll keep doin' it until I retire.
Choose to work for a terrible company that does nothing but weaken the industry AND the pilot profession, and you'll pay for it your whole career. That's a fact.
Choose to work for a terrible company that does nothing but weaken the industry AND the pilot profession, and you'll pay for it your whole career. That's a fact.
I believe that the jumpseat is a gift given by a Captain....If I don't get it than I just move over to mainline the next flight. It may delay me getting home a few hours but I knew it would be a long shot to get on your flight.
Now that you have denied me....I will in turn deny you and everyone from your company....Most of you think that the jumpseat is a right of yours , if it is open. Now you will sit and stew for a few hours trying to catch the next ride. You can keep denying me your jumpseat. It wont upset me....It wont stop me from getting home or to work...It wont stop me from getting my PIC.
11-20-2006 | 08:38 PM
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From: ERJ Right Seat
How many routes and aircraft do you have? You can add can't you? Or maybe you can't since you went to work flying 70 seaters for 50 seat pay.
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11-20-2006 | 08:44 PM
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Yea...you can go ahead and deny me a jumpseat. This becomes a case of you losing and me not winning.
I believe that the jumpseat is a gift given by a Captain....If I don't get it than I just move over to mainline the next flight. It may delay me getting home a few hours but I knew it would be a long shot to get on your flight.
Now that you have denied me....I will in turn deny you and everyone from your company....Most of you think that the jumpseat is a right of yours , if it is open. Now you will sit and stew for a few hours trying to catch the next ride. You can keep denying me your jumpseat. It wont upset me....It wont stop me from getting home or to work...It wont stop me from getting my PIC.
I believe that the jumpseat is a gift given by a Captain....If I don't get it than I just move over to mainline the next flight. It may delay me getting home a few hours but I knew it would be a long shot to get on your flight.
Now that you have denied me....I will in turn deny you and everyone from your company....Most of you think that the jumpseat is a right of yours , if it is open. Now you will sit and stew for a few hours trying to catch the next ride. You can keep denying me your jumpseat. It wont upset me....It wont stop me from getting home or to work...It wont stop me from getting my PIC.
11-21-2006 | 05:59 AM
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
"Jumpseat agreement"?? What the ****** are you talking about? Any 121 company has the opportunity to request a jumpseat on my aircraft. The great thing is, I get to say HELL NO whenever I choose. Did it twice last week to two different Mesa affiliated pilots, and I'll keep doin' it until I retire.
Choose to work for a terrible company that does nothing but weaken the industry AND the pilot profession, and you'll pay for it your whole career. That's a fact.
Choose to work for a terrible company that does nothing but weaken the industry AND the pilot profession, and you'll pay for it your whole career. That's a fact.
I don't work for mesa. But why don't you tell me which airline you work for and your approximate DOH...so I can start denying jumpseats to anyone who might be you...
It does appear to be true that mesa captains are having a harder time getting hired by majors, for whatever reason.
11-21-2006 | 06:08 AM
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From: FO - 757/767
"Jumpseat agreement"?? What the ****** are you talking about? Any 121 company has the opportunity to request a jumpseat on my aircraft. The great thing is, I get to say HELL NO whenever I choose. Did it twice last week to two different Mesa affiliated pilots, and I'll keep doin' it until I retire.
Choose to work for a terrible company that does nothing but weaken the industry AND the pilot profession, and you'll pay for it your whole career. That's a fact.
Choose to work for a terrible company that does nothing but weaken the industry AND the pilot profession, and you'll pay for it your whole career. That's a fact.
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