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kls81 02-16-2013 05:09 AM

ATP & 500xc
 
Hello,
I have a quick question about the 500 hour cross country requirement for the atp. I'm starting the application process to some regionals, however with the atp rule coming into affect how will this effect me?
I had a somewhat unusual job flying the Lake Erie islands. Where the flights were all within 20nm. I well exceed the other minimums. When would I have to have the 500 hours? Would I be able to build these hours while at an airline? Or do I need them as a hiring requirement?

Thanks,
Ken

PilotJ3 02-16-2013 05:21 AM


Hello,
I have a quick question about the 500 hour cross country requirement for the atp. I'm starting the application process to some regionals, however with the atp rule coming into affect how will this effect me?
I had a somewhat unusual job flying the Lake Erie islands. Where the flights were all within 20nm. I well exceed the other minimums. When would I have to have the 500 hours? Would I be able to build these hours while at an airline? Or do I need them as a hiring requirement?

Thanks,
Ken
I think most airlines are now requiring all the ATP minimums, at least eagle is. For pilot certification a x-country is 50nm miles.

rickair7777 02-16-2013 07:07 AM

At this point, you pretty much need all the ATP mins because airlines won't have time (or the desire) to bring you back for an ATP ride in late July.

Not sure how much XC you have but even if you got hired today it would be hard to get 400 XC by Aug 1st.

If we had this conversation last summer, you would have been OK...they could put you on line to get your XC and then give you an ATP ride at your recurrent. But I think we're past V1 on this now.

kls81 02-16-2013 07:19 AM

Ok thanks.

Rotor2prop 02-16-2013 07:41 AM

Remember that for the ATP the 50nm leg doesn't require a landing. So if you take off and went to say a VOR 50nm away and came back home, that counts for ATP XC time. Maybe that will help you make some of your flights possibly work.

lowtimepilot 02-16-2013 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Rotor2prop (Post 1353895)
Remember that for the ATP the 50nm leg doesn't require a landing. So if you take off and went to say a VOR 50nm away and came back home, that counts for ATP XC time. Maybe that will help you make some of your flights possibly work.

How do people note this in their logbook? Make a new column or atp x-cty?

rickair7777 02-16-2013 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by lowtimepilot (Post 1353973)
How do people note this in their logbook? Make a new column or atp x-cty?


Not a bad idea. Or use an asterisk or some other means of separating student, 135, and ATP XC time.

Whale Driver 02-16-2013 10:39 AM

Once you have a commercial licence any flight where you landed at an airport other than the one you took off from is cross country. There is no distance required. I would not separate it, just keep adding to your x-country column.

TI 3VOM 02-16-2013 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Whale Driver (Post 1354025)
Once you have a commercial licence any flight where you landed at an airport other than the one you took off from is cross country. There is no distance required. I would not separate it, just keep adding to your x-country column.

Not true for the ATP requirement. You must have gone a distance of at least 50NM from your departure airport to count it as xc for the purpose of the 500hrs xc for ATP minimums.

kls81 02-16-2013 10:45 AM

So there isn't a required distance when it comes to the atp xc requirement?


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