How much is too much?
#11
You have fairly significant time for ex-military (assuming you're a fixed-wing guy). 4500 hrs in a C130 vs. a C150 is vastly different. I would recommend that you skip the regionals and aim for a major/legacy next year. Your 4 yr degree alone is something many don't have. Don't sell yourself short. Even an LCC like Spirit is better than the best regional. BTW I was NOT military. I had 5000 hrs when I was hired at UA 15 yrs ago after flying for a commuter airline (BE-1900) and a freight oufit (B-727). Letters of rec from your former buds and networking are what is going to get you a good job.....Now let the remarks from the RJ guys begin.
#13
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We (G7) have hired everyone from 1500- 20k. Recently, we have hired 25 year captains from Comair who were management pilots/ directors of training, etc. bottom line, at least here, there is no such thing as too much expirence. Getting people with different backgrounds and different amounts of flight time is fundamentally a good thing for everyone involved.
The OP can do much better.
#14
Hello all. I have heard thru the grapevine that many of the regionals do not really want “higher time” pilots. The reason that I have heard is that if they are high enough time they will leave as soon as a better carrier calls them and the regional wants them to work for at least a few years.
I guess my question is a two part question. Is this the case with the regionals and if it is, how much time is too much? The reason why I ask is that in the next year I will leave the military with about 4,500 TT / 2,000 PC, and my ATP. Knowing how competitive the majors are there is a strong possibility that I may not get a job there right away. I would of course want to keep flying and building towards that major airline seat at the regionals, but will I have “too much” time to get hired by them?
I guess my question is a two part question. Is this the case with the regionals and if it is, how much time is too much? The reason why I ask is that in the next year I will leave the military with about 4,500 TT / 2,000 PC, and my ATP. Knowing how competitive the majors are there is a strong possibility that I may not get a job there right away. I would of course want to keep flying and building towards that major airline seat at the regionals, but will I have “too much” time to get hired by them?
That situation may change next year, but right now there are plenty of high time guys in RJ's with apps out at the majors. The regionals know this which is why some are asking for training contracts for new hires.
I doubt they would turn away qualified applicants when they are struggling to fill classes though.
#15
Thanks for all the input guys. I am aware that 4,500 TT is not really that much when going against guys that have been airline flying for years. When I read that Alaska has 2,900 applicants for 80 seats, that was very sobering. Knowing that there are guys out there with much more time than I have and lots of 121 experience applying for the same jobs I will try to get does not give me high hopes.
My big worry was that I could find myself too low for a major, but too high for a regional. It is good to know that there will be places for me to hang my hat when I get out.
My big worry was that I could find myself too low for a major, but too high for a regional. It is good to know that there will be places for me to hang my hat when I get out.
#17
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[FONT=Calibri]Thanks for all the input guys. I am aware that 4,500 TT is not really that much when going against guys that have been airline flying for years. When I read that Alaska has 2,900 applicants for 80 seats, that was very sobering. Knowing that there are guys out there with much more time than I have and lots of 121 experience applying for the same jobs I will try to get does not give me high hopes.
That's what will separate you from those in your peer group.
Bottom line, you will have to stay current, regardless of how you do it. Most, if not all apps ask how much time you've flown in one form or another. Last 3 months, 6 months, year, whatever.
#18
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MilitaryA8TR...you will have little problem getting hired somewhere to keep current, and that is at a minimum. You could fly 135 as well, don't forget.
There are a myriad of part 91 jobs out there also. Do you think of settling down and being home almost every night? A corporate gig could be just the ticket! Some corporate outfits are pretty much ex military only. You lucky dog
. The world is your oyster! Don't fret!
Like Rickair said, showing some indications of putting in a little bit of time at a company will go far. And lastly, there was an ex military guy in my new hire class. So it happens. (He bounced two weeks after IOE, but hey-he got hired at a regional to start with!)
There are a myriad of part 91 jobs out there also. Do you think of settling down and being home almost every night? A corporate gig could be just the ticket! Some corporate outfits are pretty much ex military only. You lucky dog
. The world is your oyster! Don't fret!Like Rickair said, showing some indications of putting in a little bit of time at a company will go far. And lastly, there was an ex military guy in my new hire class. So it happens. (He bounced two weeks after IOE, but hey-he got hired at a regional to start with!)
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. BTW, I've been jumpseating on Spirit a couple times a month between DFW-ORD since you guys started the route. Nothing but really good experiences
...Thx!(the NK pilots truly gained my respect in the summer of 2010 though)
Last edited by uaav8r; 02-25-2013 at 10:16 AM.


