Skywest wins delta RFP
11-22-2006, 01:57 PM
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"bottom feeding ******hole Mesa"
Originally Posted by MikeB525
But at very least we can be thankful that SkyWest got the planes, and not the likes of Mesa, GoJets, or some other bottom feeding ******hole.
One of the finest regional contracts is being dismantled and we can be thankfull about that, tell that to the next Comair flight you jump seat to Cincy?
After all of this, who was it that sat with Delta and ASA pilots last week to discuss how they will not get into a pilot bidding war to compete for the Comair flying. How they will not allow thier company to lower the standards any further.
Oh yeah, it was "bottom feeding ******hole Mesa", that's who. Funny how the Skywest guys missed that meeting. Funny how they are still some how smelling good.
We are making an effort to stop this race to the bottom, a few props for the guys who said no would be nice.
Figure 5 and half crews on 12 planes. That's 132 pilots/brothers and Sisters displaced, Happy Holidays!
My point is not that it is the pilots fault, they have little control over these things and if you think they do please inlighten me. I just get real tired hearing about MESA pilots being scumbags and scabs and bottom feeders. And Chataqua and Skywest guys walk on water. They are both fine company's I am sure and they must all work to compete and they should, but we cannot let our lives and income be the negotiating factor.
11-22-2006, 02:01 PM
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I see lots of hate towards skywest in the future.
Skywest isn't a mesa or gojets. They have the highest 50 seat pay in the industry and make more than almost all regionals with profit sharing. Skwyest is growing because they are a top airline run by very smart managment who treats their employees with respect.
I cam from a part 121 airline that complained about other airlines taking flying. Problem is that most pilots and ground people didn't care if we were on time and always bashed managment. If you have thinking like that you don't deserve it.
Skywest isn't a mesa or gojets. They have the highest 50 seat pay in the industry and make more than almost all regionals with profit sharing. Skwyest is growing because they are a top airline run by very smart managment who treats their employees with respect.
I cam from a part 121 airline that complained about other airlines taking flying. Problem is that most pilots and ground people didn't care if we were on time and always bashed managment. If you have thinking like that you don't deserve it.
11-22-2006, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Slaphappy
I see lots of hate towards skywest in the future.
Skywest isn't a mesa or gojets. They have the highest 50 seat pay in the industry and make more than almost all regionals with profit sharing. Skwyest is growing because they are a top airline run by very smart managment who treats their employees with respect.
I cam from a part 121 airline that complained about other airlines taking flying. Problem is that most pilots and ground people didn't care if we were on time and always bashed managment. If you have thinking like that you don't deserve it.
Skywest isn't a mesa or gojets. They have the highest 50 seat pay in the industry and make more than almost all regionals with profit sharing. Skwyest is growing because they are a top airline run by very smart managment who treats their employees with respect.
I cam from a part 121 airline that complained about other airlines taking flying. Problem is that most pilots and ground people didn't care if we were on time and always bashed managment. If you have thinking like that you don't deserve it.
I don't have a problem with Skywest. Everyone seems real nice and I don't think that Comair had a chance at the flying anyway. Who could have done it cheaper than Delta's own company Comair? So Delta never really wanted Comair to do it anyway.
11-22-2006, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by David Watts
Everyone seems real nice and I don't think that Comair had a chance at the flying anyway. Who could have done it cheaper than Delta's own company Comair? So Delta never really wanted Comair to do it anyway.
11-22-2006, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
Skywest is a great Company but I think some guys may get carried away by saying its the best
This is the Greatest and Best Airline in the World
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11-22-2006, 09:41 PM
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Sorry to offend. Didn't mean to. And no, I do not work for SkyWest, but they'd probably be at the top of my list if I do decide to become an airline pilot.
New question: Why exactly is Delta out to destroy Comair?? Since they own Comair, if I understand correctly, Comair's profits go directly to Delta. Some here have even said that Comair really isn't expensive for Delta to run. So why is Delta acting this way?
I have also heard that there was alot of tension between the Comair managment and the pilot corps, and that the managment actually once sued the pilots (and lost). Do you thing this might simply be Delta's payback against Comair pilots?
PS: I like Comair alot. I will say that before all this crap happened, if I decided to become an airline pilot and wanted to stay in the east, Comair would have been at the top of my list (along with AWAC).
New question: Why exactly is Delta out to destroy Comair?? Since they own Comair, if I understand correctly, Comair's profits go directly to Delta. Some here have even said that Comair really isn't expensive for Delta to run. So why is Delta acting this way?
I have also heard that there was alot of tension between the Comair managment and the pilot corps, and that the managment actually once sued the pilots (and lost). Do you thing this might simply be Delta's payback against Comair pilots?
PS: I like Comair alot. I will say that before all this crap happened, if I decided to become an airline pilot and wanted to stay in the east, Comair would have been at the top of my list (along with AWAC).
11-23-2006, 04:30 AM
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This is me, but Skywest is the same as Frank Lorenzo's Eastern ALPA busting Continental. Jerry is taking ALPA flying (Comair) and assets (ASA), and transferring them to a non union carrier (Skywest). The Skywest pilots are at Jerry Akin's mercy because they have no union. They are flying the 700 and 900 RJ's for 200 rates.
Go easy on Mesa, they burned up their negotiating capital on scope during their last contract, I expect their rates to be much better the next time around. And they are at least participating in the meetings between the union DCI carriers, Skywest is not. Right now, Skywest is lowering the bar, by not demanding real 700/900 rates. They better get their act together.
We're going to hold the line at ASA, even if it means burning the place to the ground. It is the only thing that will stop this crap, hopefully everyone else feels the same way..
Go easy on Mesa, they burned up their negotiating capital on scope during their last contract, I expect their rates to be much better the next time around. And they are at least participating in the meetings between the union DCI carriers, Skywest is not. Right now, Skywest is lowering the bar, by not demanding real 700/900 rates. They better get their act together.
We're going to hold the line at ASA, even if it means burning the place to the ground. It is the only thing that will stop this crap, hopefully everyone else feels the same way..
11-23-2006, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
How is it we can be thankfull. I imagine you work at Skywest.
One of the finest regional contracts is being dismantled and we can be thankfull about that, tell that to the next Comair flight you jump seat to Cincy?
After all of this, who was it that sat with Delta and ASA pilots last week to discuss how they will not get into a pilot bidding war to compete for the Comair flying. How they will not allow thier company to lower the standards any further.
Oh yeah, it was "bottom feeding ******hole Mesa", that's who. Funny how the Skywest guys missed that meeting. Funny how they are still some how smelling good.
We are making an effort to stop this race to the bottom, a few props for the guys who said no would be nice.
Figure 5 and half crews on 12 planes. That's 132 pilots/brothers and Sisters displaced, Happy Holidays!
My point is not that it is the pilots fault, they have little control over these things and if you think they do please inlighten me. I just get real tired hearing about MESA pilots being scumbags and scabs and bottom feeders. And Chataqua and Skywest guys walk on water. They are both fine company's I am sure and they must all work to compete and they should, but we cannot let our lives and income be the negotiating factor.
One of the finest regional contracts is being dismantled and we can be thankfull about that, tell that to the next Comair flight you jump seat to Cincy?
After all of this, who was it that sat with Delta and ASA pilots last week to discuss how they will not get into a pilot bidding war to compete for the Comair flying. How they will not allow thier company to lower the standards any further.
Oh yeah, it was "bottom feeding ******hole Mesa", that's who. Funny how the Skywest guys missed that meeting. Funny how they are still some how smelling good.
We are making an effort to stop this race to the bottom, a few props for the guys who said no would be nice.
Figure 5 and half crews on 12 planes. That's 132 pilots/brothers and Sisters displaced, Happy Holidays!
My point is not that it is the pilots fault, they have little control over these things and if you think they do please inlighten me. I just get real tired hearing about MESA pilots being scumbags and scabs and bottom feeders. And Chataqua and Skywest guys walk on water. They are both fine company's I am sure and they must all work to compete and they should, but we cannot let our lives and income be the negotiating factor.
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