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AV8R 05-21-2013 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1413576)
Good, so you like that mirror I got you last Christmas.

Or maybe it's from getting all the hoes.

Bartok 05-21-2013 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1413576)
Good, so you like that mirror I got you last Christmas.

You know Shy, there is no one that hates Pinnacle more than I do, except for you. But at least I know the ones that need hating, most are just making it through this nightmare.

And even I can let it go, and I still work at this pathetic place. At least you got out.

I hope you are enjoying yourself, the rest of us just see a sad bitter person.

swamp 05-21-2013 06:30 PM

Shy, Id be careful poking at anyone right now.... Working for VA is much like a pinnacle FO buying an Aston Martin with his/her concession check tomorrow... Yes he/she may have the money right now, and can afford the payment right now, but eventually that money is gonna run out and the tow truck driver is gonna take that nice Aston Martin away. The latest VA financial reports were NOT good... $31.7 million LOSS for 2012, and $15 million LOSS for the first quarter of 2013.. Thats a lot of money, and Yes Branson is backing it, but do you think he is in the business of loosing that much money?? Be careful patronizing your old co-workers. I know your joking and messing around (I have a pretty good sense of humor) but some of your fellow brethren do get butt hurt easy, and you never know when you need a fellow co-worker... Good luck big homie.

Paid2fly 05-21-2013 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1413168)
Obviously. Most of that single 135 stuff is at night and that's usually when ATC is quiet and traffic very light. How hard can it be. Oh boo hoo thunderstorms? You can see lightning at night from miles away. This is a much lower skill level than us major/LCC guys flying the real metal in the busiest of airports at the busiest of times. Now that involves some serious skill. Not flying into Evansville.




I'm only on 2nd year pay and on track to clear $82k. 4 to 6 times higher would mean $410,000 - $492,000. Name one corporate job that pays that much? 3am. Ring ring, ring ring. Hello? It's the boss's daughter. She needs to get to Teterboro now. Oh, isn't Jim on call tonight? He didn't answer, you did. Ugh ok. She likes McDonalds, pick it up on the way. Alright, anything else? Yes, one more thing. The airplane is out of sanitary napkins and it's that time of the month for her.... so fix that problem, hopefully that Walmart is open. Ok, I'll be there in 40 minutes. No, we need you there in 20.





Thought you were still on first year pay, so I guess only triple your pay... Always had my schedule at least 3 or 4 weeks in advance, and was only rarely asked for a change to that schedule usually at least a week beforehand. Maintenance and catering took care of the other details you wrongly assumed to be flightcrew responsibility.:rolleyes:

Keep trying! By the way, I heard from a good buddy who's been with Virgin since almost the beginning, that he's not real sure how much longer Branson is willing to keep his money losing U.S. operation going...:eek:

ShyGuy 05-21-2013 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1413834)
Thought you were still on first year pay, so I guess only triple your pay... Always had my schedule at least 3 or 4 weeks in advance, and was only rarely asked for a change to that schedule usually at least a week beforehand. Maintenance and catering took care of the other details you wrongly assumed to be flightcrew responsibility.:rolleyes:

Keep trying! By the way, I heard from a good buddy who's been with Virgin since almost the beginning, that he's not real sure how much longer Branson is willing to keep his money losing U.S. operation going...:eek:

Triple my pay would be $246k and those corporate jobs are rare, not the norm. You sound like you have a Cush job, that's good. But there are plenty of corporate guys who can't tell you their schedule a week or two in advance. And there are those who must clean everything in their plane. Including lav. Ugh.

ShyGuy 05-22-2013 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by swamp (Post 1413779)
Shy, Id be careful poking at anyone right now.... Working for VA is much like a pinnacle FO buying an Aston Martin with his/her concession check tomorrow... Yes he/she may have the money right now, and can afford the payment right now, but eventually that money is gonna run out and the tow truck driver is gonna take that nice Aston Martin away. The latest VA financial reports were NOT good... $31.7 million LOSS for 2012, and $15 million LOSS for the first quarter of 2013.. Thats a lot of money, and Yes Branson is backing it, but do you think he is in the business of loosing that much money?? Be careful patronizing your old co-workers. I know your joking and messing around (I have a pretty good sense of humor) but some of your fellow brethren do get butt hurt easy, and you never know when you need a fellow co-worker... Good luck big homie.

Do you know how that loss is defined? The 4th quarter had an operational profit, and the net loss was attributed to the interest expense (paying back the investors). The investors are getting money, and that's what counts. The debt restructuring is a big item, with 290 million converted into equity from the Branson side of investors. Plus, the interest rate on the rest of the debt was substantially lowered. To top it off, there was an additional liquidity gain of 75 million cash on hand. IMO, things are better today than they were six months ago when the growth slowdown was announced. It's the other stuff too, like a hefty payraise and QOL increases given on April 1 that were done accounting for the budget this year and how much we make and are projected to make.

I honestly don't need any company. My strength comes from my family and god. As long as I have those, I'm always good to go. And besides, what could I possibly need from cheap subcontracted "hired help" at the regional level? They aren't real pilots as the chart has shown. :)

Past V1 05-22-2013 03:29 AM


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I honestly don't need any company. My strength comes from my family and god. As long as I have those, I'm always good to go. And besides, what could I possibly need from cheap subcontracted "hired help" at the regional level? They aren't real pilots as the chart has shown. :)
If your strength comes from God, then you must serve a false idol because your attitude represents a little whiny kid. Your family must be just as weak to put up with someone as arrogant as you.

I feel sorry for you because judging the amount of time you spend on APF, the rest of your life must not be attractive enough to pull you away. Must suck...all you will ever be is an "Airline Pilot"...not Dad, Husband, Grandfather, friend, etc.

Give APF a break bro and go enjoy life instead of arguing pointless facts that nobody cares about.

Gearswinger 05-22-2013 03:55 AM

Bribe money came this morning. Time for liquor and *****s!

SmitteyB 05-22-2013 04:56 AM

Mine was taxed at 48%. Good lord.

Bartok 05-22-2013 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by SmitteyB (Post 1413902)
Mine was taxed at 48%. Good lord.

Mine was taxed at 35%.


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