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When it came time to vote, 9E was hearing lots of shout outs from all these pilot groups who where loading up on rethoric about hanging in there, stay strong and basically asking 9E to fall on the sword on their behalf for the regional industry's sake, while they where just standing by the sidelines. |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1397106)
You're assuming that the Delta shutdown threat was not a bluff.........
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Originally Posted by fatsopilot
(Post 1397102)
Before Pinnacle even thought about trying to get more flying they stated they would furlough 450. A few weeks later it was down to 150 and a few weeks later it was 0 - this happened long before 700's were even a blimp on the radar.
Pinnacle lost all the Saabs and all the Q's and will soon be getting rid of 200's and still will not need to furlough. The regional game is a new paradigm. |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1397110)
You do realize that is all due to pilots talking with their feet? Hundreds and hundreds have left since Jan 1, 2012.
No, Colgan lost all the Saabs and all the Qs. Too bad they didn't lose career expectations. Those are preserved. Even if the new 9E tanks altogether, all Colgan pilots will be offered a Delta class date to preserve their career expectations. The reason is only Colgan pilots started at a regional with an expectation to make it to a major. |
Originally Posted by avi8tor220
(Post 1397128)
Man, you know what the sad thing is, you don't even work here anymore yet you get worked up about all this. Get over it. You moved on. Do you know how pathetic you sound. You post more on a pinnacle thread than a VX thread. Kinda stupid don't you think. You seem like a nice guy with good intentions. But man, go get laid or something. And if you are married, have the Mrs. clean the pipes every once in awhile. There's too much other stuff in this world to get worked up about a merger between 3 different regionals, regionals you left from.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1397110)
No, Colgan lost all the Saabs and all the Qs. Too bad they didn't lose career expectations. Those are preserved. Even if the new 9E tanks altogether, all Colgan pilots will be offered a Delta class date to preserve their career expectations. The reason is only Colgan pilots started at a regional with an expectation to make it to a major.
How do you say it? "But please don't let facts get in the way of a good bashing..."? |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1397106)
You're assuming that the Delta shutdown threat was not a bluff.........
It really doesn't matter if you and I think they where bluffing. The moment the company, and more surprisingly, the UNION guarantees a wind down as a possible outcome if we don't pass that pos contract, it is every pilot's responsibility to include that to their equation and must give it some weight in their decision making process. Now, probably you and me would give it very little weight, since we may both think they are bluffing, and we would vote accordingly. Other pilots may give it more weight based on their own perspective and opinion of the situation, and vote accordingly also. The truth is, no one can really tell what would've happened if the contract would've been rejected. As much as we may think they were bluffing, we will never know. The other regional pilot groups certainly didnt know for a fact what was going to happen to 9E if the new agreement was rejected. Hell, if they would've known for a fact that 9E was never going to shut down I bet every one of them would offered their full year salary and their first born to 9E in order to vote no... |
Originally Posted by shimmydamp
(Post 1397137)
No, Pinnacle Corp lost all the Saabs and all the Qs. Phil Trenary signed the unprofitable contracts with United and the reason that flying was wound down was because Delta was not going to finance the competition with bankruptcy loans.
How do you say it? "But please don't let facts get in the way of a good bashing..."? |
Originally Posted by avi8tor220
(Post 1397128)
Man, you know what the sad thing is, you don't even work here anymore yet you get worked up about all this. Get over it. You moved on There's too much other stuff in this world to get worked up about a merger between 3 different regionals, regionals you left from.
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It wasn't a waste. It afforded you the opportunity to move on!
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