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slough 05-01-2013 03:58 PM

Chautauqua bases
 
Can some of the Republic guys list the chautauqua bases by seniority and the estimated reserve time/availability directly out of training.

Also, any ideas of chautauqua's future fleet plans shrinking/growing, or adding bigger planes?

What 05-01-2013 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by slough (Post 1401759)
Can some of the Republic guys list the chautauqua bases by seniority and the estimated reserve time/availability directly out of training.

Also, any ideas of chautauqua's future fleet plans shrinking/growing, or adding bigger planes?

Dear magic eight ball>....

CFItillIdie 05-02-2013 03:14 AM

You get a CMH,you get a CMH,you get a CMH!!! CMH FOR EVERYBODY!!!!

Emb170man 05-02-2013 04:44 AM

Hell. That's the only base you will get for any of the RAH certificates. Seriously, how friggin hard is it for people to understand. Don't come work here, it sucks. Yes, CFI'ing is better than this place. Stay away!!!!!

BTpilot 05-02-2013 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Emb170man (Post 1402030)
Hell. That's the only base you will get for any of the RAH certificates. Seriously, how friggin hard is it for people to understand. Don't come work here, it sucks. Yes, CFI'ing is better than this place. Stay away!!!!!

At least some of you get it...

jeff122670 05-02-2013 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by Emb170man (Post 1402030)
Hell. That's the only base you will get for any of the RAH certificates. Seriously, how friggin hard is it for people to understand. Don't come work here, it sucks. Yes, CFI'ing is better than this place. Stay away!!!!!

So when are you quitting your job???? If it sucks so bad, why are you working there????

BTpilot 05-02-2013 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by jeff122670 (Post 1402038)
So when are you quitting your job???? If it sucks so bad, why are you working there????

Where's he gonna go? He probably went there 6 years ago when they said the upgrade was gonna be 1.5-2 years!! Haha just didn't work out well..

Don't blame him for hanging onto the only thing he has now..

jeff122670 05-02-2013 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by BTpilot (Post 1402043)
Where's he gonna go? He probably went there 6 years ago when they said the upgrade was gonna be 1.5-2 years!! Haha just didn't work out well..

Don't blame him for hanging onto the only thing he has now..

good point...however, he could try this place since he appears so disatisfied at his present job: :)

Careers :: McDonalds.com

lmao!

slough 05-02-2013 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by slough (Post 1401759)
Can some of the Republic guys list the chautauqua bases by seniority and the estimated reserve time/availability directly out of training.

Also, any ideas of chautauqua's future fleet plans shrinking/growing, or adding bigger planes?


Can anyone answer this question? I am wondering about the bases and how long it takes to hold them. How senior is Chicago, Cleveland etc...


Maybe some new hires that just went through training on chautauqua certificate can answer.

BTpilot 05-02-2013 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by slough (Post 1402055)
Can anyone answer this question? I am wondering about the bases and how long it takes to hold them. How senior is Chicago, Cleveland etc...


Maybe some new hires that just went through training on chautauqua certificate can answer.

I don't work there but my good friend does. You're gonna get CMH I guess if you're new. ORD is senior and so is LGA for the ERJ. He was on reserve for a year. You can't swap certificates if you're an FO unless it's for upgrade.

Get real, RAH sucks. Everyone will hate you and you will hate yourself. Everyone on the outside feels a little warmer towards the Red team though(CHQ ERJ)..

RAHCONTRACTNOW.com

Do yourself a favor and work somewhere else..

Oh and PS, go find a forum that describes how they treat reserves... Horrifying

jeff122670 05-02-2013 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by slough (Post 1402055)
Can anyone answer this question? I am wondering about the bases and how long it takes to hold them. How senior is Chicago, Cleveland etc...


Maybe some new hires that just went through training on chautauqua certificate can answer.

I spoke with someone about interviewing later in the summer. I want SDF as a base and was told that it shouldnt be a problem and would know at the interview.

Hopefully that wont be a problem for you and you will get a base tha you want.

I would interview and see what they say. You dont have anything to lose, right?

Good luck!

olepilot03 05-02-2013 06:40 AM

You may not get your 1st choice out of training, but you shouldnt have a problem getting the base you want within a month or 2. They've been rotating where they're putting new hires, so there should be a healthy amount of guys wanting to swap at the very least.

Karma 05-02-2013 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by CFItillIdie (Post 1402002)
You get a CMH,you get a CMH,you get a CMH!!! CMH FOR EVERYBODY!!!!

CMH is an awesome place to live, cheap cost of living. You can get a 2,000 sq foot home for $80k.


LMAO at the people who became pilots and thought they would never have to move to pursue a flying career.

jeff122670 05-02-2013 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by olepilot03 (Post 1402089)
You may not get your 1st choice out of training, but you shouldnt have a problem getting the base you want within a month or 2. They've been rotating where they're putting new hires, so there should be a healthy amount of guys wanting to swap at the very least.

sweet, thanks for the info! SDF or IND would be the two places I would have my fingers crossed for!

Thanks!

olepilot03 05-02-2013 06:49 AM

....Indy will still be tough. You shouldnt have a problem getting into SDF though. Enjoy those 430 am shows!

CptGSXR 05-02-2013 07:56 AM

As far as bases go, I'd figure CHQ would be the most likely cert to change them. Those 50 seaters will be replaced sooner rather than later. I know they signed a deal with Delta (somehow, even with Delta leading charge to eliminate them) for 3 years for some of their 145s. But it's a matter of time before they have to get new planes and as many people have said CHQ might just be absorbed into Shuttle or Republic completely.

Not that I WANT any of that to happen. I'm also hopeful to get a SDF base out of training or quickly after. But I won't be interviewing for about 2 more months and so many things can change. Always hope that a new contract is signed by then too.

(Side Note: Hey Jeff, I know you said in other Republic thread you wanted SDF as well. But didn't you post in the TSA thread you were talking to HR? Not trying to be too nosey, just wondering what the options were over there compared to CHQ)

jeff122670 05-02-2013 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by CptGSXR (Post 1402150)
As far as bases go, I'd figure CHQ would be the most likely cert to change them. Those 50 seaters will be replaced sooner rather than later. I know they signed a deal with Delta (somehow, even with Delta leading charge to eliminate them) for 3 years for some of their 145s. But it's a matter of time before they have to get new planes and as many people have said CHQ might just be absorbed into Shuttle or Republic completely.

Not that I WANT any of that to happen. I'm also hopeful to get a SDF base out of training or quickly after. But I won't be interviewing for about 2 more months and so many things can change. Always hope that a new contract is signed by then too.

(Side Note: Hey Jeff, I know you said in other Republic thread you wanted SDF as well. But didn't you post in the TSA thread you were talking to HR? Not trying to be too nosey, just wondering what the options were over there compared to CHQ)

Well, we just bought a house in Louisville and will be moving there. TSA is good for me since STL and IAD would be an easy commute. CHQ would be best since it is local, but IAD would also work for a commute.

Needless to say, I will have a lot of questions for my interviews. lol

TillerEnvy 05-02-2013 01:11 PM



Originally Posted by slough (Post 1402055)
Can anyone answer this question? I am wondering about the bases and how long it takes to hold them. How senior is Chicago, Cleveland etc...


Maybe some new hires that just went through training on chautauqua certificate can answer.

RAHCONTRACTNOW.com
Careful. It's rahcontractnow.org, not .com.

Company bought the .com domain. Big difference.

Zona Pilot 1830 05-02-2013 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by BTpilot (Post 1402043)
Where's he gonna go? He probably went there 6 years ago when they said the upgrade was gonna be 1.5-2 years!! Haha just didn't work out well..

Don't blame him for hanging onto the only thing he has now..

He could go work at Great Lakes. Apparently they're presenting opportuinities. LMFAO!!!!!

WX Guru 05-02-2013 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Emb170man (Post 1402030)
Hell. That's the only base you will get for any of the RAH certificates. Seriously, how friggin hard is it for people to understand. Don't come work here, it sucks. Yes, CFI'ing is better than this place. Stay away!!!!!

Care to embellish why it sucks working there so much? Some of us actually have a life and don't sit on APC all day and read posts.

aa73 05-02-2013 01:29 PM

Just curious.... why does CHQ/RAH have CMH, SDF, IND as bases.... don't they code share w/ United, USAIr, Delta? these bases have nothing in common with the parent airlines. I would have guessed the bases would have been in the parent airline hubs (ORD, ATL, PHL, etc) the way most other regionals are. (ACA had IAD, ORD, LGA, BOS (Delta)... XJT has CLE, IAH, EWR (UAL).. etc.) Never seen a regional airline with bases in cities that are not hubs.

Do these bases have some type of special shuttle service to the hubs?
thx

Karma 05-02-2013 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by WX Guru (Post 1402316)
Care to embellish why it sucks working there so much? Some of us actually have a life and don't sit on APC all day and read posts.

Some people have never worked outside of aviation and think its so much better working a 8-5 job. I had grossed $46,000 (credit 90h w per diem) for years with 17 days off as an FO. I feel we deserve more but it was livable. I was so bored with well over half of the month off I worked a part time job and made $60k my last 2 years before I upgraded. I would like to move on to a major someday but underpaid or not I can't think of another job outside of flying I would rather have that will give me 17 days off a month. I don't know much about CHQ but even some of the junior guys on the 170 are getting 15 or more days off. The contract is old and pay is below average but it's just a regional. Get your time and move on.

jeff122670 05-02-2013 04:58 PM

@Karma, WELL SAID. sometimes you just gotta do what makes you happy.

Next time you take off, look down at the schmucks driving to work to sit in their office. Flying is the best job in the world!!!

galaxy flyer 05-02-2013 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by jeff122670 (Post 1402444)
@Karma, WELL SAID. sometimes you just gotta do what makes you happy.

Next time you take off, look down at the schmucks driving to work to sit in their office. Flying is the best job in the world!!!

And thus explains the pay situation so many complain about. You're trading time off for pay.

GF

STR8NLVL 05-02-2013 06:25 PM



Originally Posted by WX Guru (Post 1402316)
Care to embellish why it sucks working there so much? Some of us actually have a life and don't sit on APC all day and read posts.

Some people have never worked outside of aviation and think its so much better working a 8-5 job. I had grossed $46,000 (credit 90h w per diem) for years with 17 days off as an FO. I feel we deserve more but it was livable. I was so bored with well over half of the month off I worked a part time job and made $60k my last 2 years before I upgraded. I would like to move on to a major someday but underpaid or not I can't think of another job outside of flying I would rather have that will give me 17 days off a month. I don't know much about CHQ but even some of the junior guys on the 170 are getting 15 or more days off. The contract is old and pay is below average but it's just a regional. Get your time and move on.
You won't get this on the CHQ certificate. Before I upgraded, I bid for maximum days off. At best I got 16, usually 15 with 82-85 hours of credit. I W2'd $42k my last two years as a topped out FO. First year you'll make $25k. Just keeping it real.

As to CHQ bases, the 145 has SDF, ORD, CLE, IND, CMH, and LGA. There have been a few new hires to get all of them in different classes, so it's the luck of the draw. But the most typical JR bases are CMH and SDF.

IND is the most senior and if you get in you'll be on RSV for a long time. RSV in SDF or CMH has been running less than 3-6 months. RSV is hell if you don't live in base, and still crap if you do; 3am-3pm RSV period, hour and a half call-out, you can be used up until midnight your last day, rendering your period uncommutable on both ends with 11 days off, all for 75 hours of guarantee and a 10 year-old contract with no chance of a new one any time soon.

I'd strongly encourage you to check out RAHContractNow.org and think really hard before coming here. I understand needing a job, but with others hiring I would go to a company that treats its employees with respect before coming here, if given the choice.

I can't wait to leave...

kingairfun 05-02-2013 06:39 PM

Thank those that severely undercut Comair, in exchange for the quick upgrade 10 years ago..... No matter what you have been told or think, The CHQ MEC introduced your current CBA as a way to upgrade quick. I had a friend(CHQ) calling me from the actual road show, and nearly telling me word for word what they were being sold on...

Of course he upgraded quick, got his time and was the first of our immediate group of friends to end up at a major... So it worked for him and I am happy for him. But the fact still remains you are working for the $$ you are making for one reason and one reason only..... The carrot a decade ago..

Hell, 10 years ago I made $42K as a 3-4 year FO at Comair.. Then again that was 10 years ago. You'd think the pay would be atleast slightly higher 10 years later:rolleyes:

Ronaldo 05-02-2013 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by jeff122670 (Post 1402064)
I spoke with someone about interviewing later in the summer. I want SDF as a base and was told that it shouldnt be a problem and would know at the interview.

Hopefully that wont be a problem for you and you will get a base tha you want.

I would interview and see what they say. You dont have anything to lose, right?

Good luck!

Sure you can get SDF, while it's open. There's a good chance it'll close before you've been off IOE for 6 months.

You should quit the job before you have it, as you suggest the rest of us do.

Ronaldo 05-02-2013 08:49 PM

I've been here 6 years and I've NEVER seen 40K, in fact my highest is 36K gross.

jeff122670 05-03-2013 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 1402582)
Sure you can get SDF, while it's open. There's a good chance it'll close before you've been off IOE for 6 months.

You should quit the job before you have it, as you suggest the rest of us do.

LOL...touche

Actually because I dont believe it is as bad a people are making it out to be. Without data to back it all up, this is just opinion.

$36K is not good....and I know people on here are educated...so why would they stick with a bad situation (however, i dont know your other income sources)? Are you gambling?

Obviously flying is more important than money to you (as it is to me), so you are doing something that you love to do.......reference my previous post....and if you hate it so much, you can always quit.

(not trying to flame bait, but do you see my point? it is one way or the other....)

Emb170man 05-03-2013 10:19 AM

It is every bit as bad as people say. I am trying to get out, but without pic time (6 +years in the right seat) options are limited. I am not interested in going to the bottom of another regional, starting over as furlough fodder, and commuting....so I suffer through it until my escape plan works out. For someone who isn't here yet, others are hiring, others who don't have it as bad. Why the hello oils you come here!?

Oh, as of 3 days ago, our ASAP program is terminated....protection from the FAA, gone. Yeah, this place is jus peachy...come on over. If you do, I don't want to hear one, not ONE complaint for as long as you are here...if you know better, and chose to come here anyway, you are a fool and lose the right to *****.

TBucket 05-03-2013 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Emb170man (Post 1402857)

Oh, as of 3 days ago, our ASAP program is terminated....protection from the FAA, gone.


Holy ****, that right there would be enough for me to run screaming into the night. The first time a maintenance guy screws up and collars the wrong thing, or doesn't, or something, you can kiss your certificates goodbye.

block30 05-03-2013 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Emb170man (Post 1402857)
It is every bit as bad as people say. I am trying to get out, but without pic time (6 +years in the right seat) options are limited. I am not interested in going to the bottom of another regional, starting over as furlough fodder, and commuting....so I suffer through it until my escape plan works out. For someone who isn't here yet, others are hiring, others who don't have it as bad. Why the hello oils you come here!?

Oh, as of 3 days ago, our ASAP program is terminated....protection from the FAA, gone. Yeah, this place is jus peachy...come on over. If you do, I don't want to hear one, not ONE complaint for as long as you are here...if you know better, and chose to come here anyway, you are a fool and lose the right to *****.

Whoa! That is nuts. I hate to kick up a hornets nest of internet bickering- but that should scare people into not applying there. Like Joe Biden said, "This is a big flippin' deal!"

Is that across all three certificates-Republic, Shuttle, Chq?

magnus0322 05-03-2013 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1402895)
Whoa! That is nuts. I hate to kick up a hornets nest of internet bickering- but that should scare people into not applying there. Like Joe Biden said, "This is a big flippin' deal!"

Is that across all three certificates-Republic, Shuttle, Chq?

Unfortunately it is across all three certificates. It's not just ASAP. It is every single committee the union is involved in... from FOQA to Scheduling and everything in between. This is a move that hurts the pilot group much more than it hurts the company. They better have an excellent reason. Otherwise it is time to recall CM and his good old boys club.

Until this situation gets explained and resolved, I would advise anyone thinking of coming here to steer away. I never thought that I would get screwed not just by management but also my own union which I pay dues to.

Emb170man 05-03-2013 12:30 PM

It's gotta be deeper than just the local. IBT all the way to the top with Hoffa, has stolen my money for years with nothing to show. RAH management has led this company to the point of extreme low morale, now IBT kicks a down guy in the gut. Stay away, for your own good and for our good. If enough people say NO and go elsewhere, maybe the cancelled flights for lack of crew will actually do something.

starship 05-03-2013 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Emb170man (Post 1402857)
It is every bit as bad as people say. I am trying to get out, but without pic time (6 +years in the right seat) options are limited. I am not interested in going to the bottom of another regional, starting over as furlough fodder, and commuting....so I suffer through it until my escape plan works out. For someone who isn't here yet, others are hiring, others who don't have it as bad. Why the hello oils you come here!?


Oh, as of 3 days ago, our ASAP program is terminated....protection from the FAA, gone. Yeah, this place is jus peachy...come on over. If you do, I don't want to hear one, not ONE complaint for as long as you are here...if you know better, and chose to come here anyway, you are a fool and lose the right to *****.


So you're saying RAH is soooooo bad and other places are waaaay better and you write that? You could start over at Air Wisconsin and second year pay will be what you're making now and you'll make more with all their duty and trip rigs. So do that.. And Wal-Mart and McDonald's and Waffle House are always hiring too.

Chances are RAH is not going to furlough and never going to strike and with new flying upgrade times are bound to drop.. And you should be upgrading pretty soon if you're a late 07 hire. If you are bypassing upgrade because you don't want to fly the 145 or the Q400 then you shouldn't be complaining..Seems to be the case since you seem pretty embellished about letting everyone know you fly the E170. It has engines under the wings! ..I've heard already.

You can blame the termination of the ASAP program on the International Brotherhood of Thugs. Company had nothing to do with that.

Emb170man 05-03-2013 04:31 PM

I don't disagree that IBT is to blame for a lot of the problems...,company for the rest, regardless of who is to blame, life sucks for the pilots here! Yes I have bypassed an upgrade...bidding in the top 3 in the base i live in, means that I have a decent schedule. Decent schedule for me is not what a new hire will expect. Even Witt a food schedule I dislike my job. Constant reassignments, fighting for the pay you are owed, no cancellation pay, etc. I did bypass, so i won't complain about the $36/hr I've made for the past 4 years. When I can hold weekends off on reserve, or a line, in a base I can commute in 1 leg, I'll upgrade. Right now i am trading days off for pay....but pay is only a tiny bit of the many issues at this company!

Emb170man 05-03-2013 04:49 PM

As for the 170..my normal screen name was taken on this forum, so I chose this. Do I like the 170....love it. It is a great plane to fly, a little over 5,000 hours in it and if I could find a job flying this plane and paying a decent wage, I'd be happy. Do I think that because I fly a 170 and the engines are under the wings, that I am somehow more special than a CRJ guy...nope.

Geardownflaps30 05-03-2013 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 1402587)
I've been here 6 years and I've NEVER seen 40K, in fact my highest is 36K gross.

In 2004, my second year at Comair (and on reserve, so rarely breaking guarantee) I made about $42,000....

Of course, 10 yrs later there is no Comair, but RAH pay and rigs is way below industry standard.

Just sayin'...

thump 05-03-2013 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 (Post 1403110)
In 2004, my second year at Comair (and on reserve, so rarely breaking guarantee) I made about $42,000....

Of course, 10 yrs later there is no Comair, but RAH pay and rigs is way below industry standard.

Just sayin'...

Ugh, yeah, we don't have rigs.....

Geardownflaps30 05-03-2013 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by thump (Post 1403131)
Ugh, yeah, we don't have rigs.....

I know. Thx


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