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Mason32 06-09-2013 06:16 AM
It's kind of funny listening to all the young ones complaining about starting pilot pay. I remember those days.

One of the reasons is, it's an entry level job. Most entry level jobs start with low pay. This will never change.

No one put a gun to your head and made you take the job you now have.

If you want to make serious money and you are still young. Go work in the Maritime Industry. Starting pay in the Maritime industry is 60K and tops out at 400K.

Just my two cents

701EV
Most professions don't send you back to those "entry level" wages if you change employers.

Maritime pays well because not enough people want those jobs.
Sound familiar?
Our problem is our unions and the RLA

globalexpress 06-09-2013 06:55 AM
Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1425201)
Most professions don't send you back to those "entry level" wages if you change employers.

Maritime pays well because not enough people want those jobs.
Sound familiar?
Our problem is our unions and the RLA
Unions drive DOWN wages and working conditions? I agree with the RLA part.

Mason32 06-09-2013 06:58 AM
Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1425201)
Most professions don't send you back to those "entry level" wages if you change employers.

Maritime pays well because not enough people want those jobs.
Sound familiar?
Our problem is our unions and the RLA
Unions drive DOWN wages and working conditions? I agree with the RLA part.
Only because they are no longer true labor unions; they've become big business themselves.

wmupilot85 06-09-2013 07:31 AM
I'm on 3rd year pay at a regional, and I work the schedule to have around 15 days off a month, but yet I will gross between $55,000-$60,000 this year. Credit will be about 1200-1300, with block about 800-900.

globalexpress 06-09-2013 07:36 AM
Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 1425242)
I'm on 3rd year pay at a regional, and I work the schedule to have around 15 days off a month, but yet I will gross between $55,000-$60,000 this year. Credit will be about 1200-1300, with block about 800-900.
Would you say the average 3 year regional airline first officer earns $55,000 to $60,000 per year?

SongMan 06-09-2013 07:38 AM
Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 1425242)
I'm on 3rd year pay at a regional, and I work the schedule to have around 15 days off a month, but yet I will gross between $55,000-$60,000 this year. Credit will be about 1200-1300, with block about 800-900.
Is that pay average for 3rd yr FO at your airline?

JamesNoBrakes 06-09-2013 07:40 AM
Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1425225)
Only because they are no longer true labor unions; they've become big business themselves.
It's the exact same reason that wages are low, because people let them get that way. Take the eagle guys that are uncovering the corrupt union practices, THEY are actually doing something about it. Unions aren't inherently bad, but if you just keep your mouth shut and let them go, bad things can happen, just like keeping your mouth shut and letting wages slide. The union becomes a big business in it all for itself because that's what people let it do. Everyone needs a good swift kick in the ___ every once and a while.

wmupilot85 06-09-2013 08:02 AM
Originally Posted by globalexpress (Post 1425246)
Would you say the average 3 year regional airline first officer earns $55,000 to $60,000 per year?
Originally Posted by SongMan (Post 1425247)
Is that pay average for 3rd yr FO at your airline?
I didn't get a chance to finish posting, but I believe what I'm making should be a lower end. Have FO's top out around $65k-$70k. That is a living wage that will allow someone to purchase a newer/new reliable vehicle, purchase somewhere to live, pay off student loans, have a family, etc. Start off at $35k-$40k, and after 2-3 years, be at the $65-$70 mark.

A pilot will earn what they want to earn though. I don't commute, I bid uncommutable high credit trips, and I pick up high credit trips to other people don't want, like 7.5 hr day lines with a 630 duty in and a 730 duty out. If the $55-$60k average, I would say no. I would say it's more like $40k.

seafeye 06-09-2013 08:43 AM
$40k base pay per year. For spending time away from family. Then additional for flying around in a pressurized beer can.

fisherman 06-09-2013 09:19 AM
Originally Posted by globalexpress (Post 1425246)
Would you say the average 3 year regional airline first officer earns $55,000 to $60,000 per year?
i'm on third year pay at a regional, i will gross about 34k


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