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RJ Pilot 06-11-2013 02:16 PM

Eagle not Hiring?
 
It has come to my attention that Eagle is no longer hiring as of now. Reapply in 60 days.:eek:

Thunderpig 06-11-2013 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1426564)
It has come to my attention that Eagle is no longer hiring as of now. Reapply in 60 days.:eek:

Then I assume I can expect an email as I am interviewing in a week?

RJ Pilot 06-11-2013 02:24 PM

They might still run interviews. They are just not hiring for now due to backlog in training. They don't want to sent you home while getting paid for months or furlough you....

172captain 06-11-2013 02:38 PM

RJ


Where are u based? I hope it's nowhere near NY.

What 06-11-2013 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1426564)
It has come to my attention that Eagle is no longer hiring as of now. Reapply in 60 days.:eek:

So you scooped the info from EL and brought it here. And then act like you are well connected.

RJ Pilot 06-11-2013 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1426579)
So you scooped the info from EL and brought it here. And then act like you are well connected.

No eaglelounge here. My very good FO told me so and then I went straight to the source.

What 06-11-2013 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1426581)
No eaglelounge here. My very good FO told me so and then I went straight to the source.

And what are the specifics form the source?

USMCFLYR 06-11-2013 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1426579)
So you scooped the info from EL and brought it here. And then act like you are well connected.

Unless you are reading something into his post - I missed the part where he tries to come off "well connected".

RJ Pilot 06-11-2013 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1426583)
And what are the specifics form the source?

Refer to post#3. Do you even read the post?

astec 06-11-2013 02:50 PM

this is so dumb.. why cant they interview and get all the paperwork, drug testing, etc done, and just assign class dates starting in 60 days? this company bewilders me.

Cubdriver 06-11-2013 02:52 PM

I was given the try back in 60 days message from HR at Eagle back in February, and never heard another word from them. What's aggravating about that particular email message is that AirlineApps is passive application system so there is no trying back to be done- the company has to bring you back using an email or a call. I suppose it's slightly better than "get lost pal". Worse than that would be "get lost dude". Now that's really insulting. :)

What 06-11-2013 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1426586)
Refer to post#3. Do you even read the post?

I did read it, my questions still stands. What are the specifics because you mentioned furlough. Or you are so doom and gloom that you don't even notice when you do it?

Trufactor7 06-11-2013 03:36 PM

I believe they are still hiring and interviewing . Got an interview in a couple days and flight reservation as well . Haven't heard anything different yet

jgdeleon09 06-11-2013 03:59 PM

cracking a beer open and getting some popcorn ready!!! this shall be interesting!

embraer 06-11-2013 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by jgdeleon09 (Post 1426617)
cracking a beer open and getting some popcorn ready!!! this shall be interesting!

Chill out, drama queen. This is nothing more than the training department being back logged with Captain upgrades for the foreseeable future. Partially a result of Eagle's FOQ training which has had a monopoly on all the sims since last August.

No need to make a mountain out of a mole hill out of this or hope for a "show".

In any case no specifics have been given yet on how things will play out. They may still interview and hold class dates until August. Or they will hold interviews until August. Or they may not do anything at all. Again, this is all talk right now and it is coming from the same source...Eagle Lounge being the epicenter despite some saying otherwise.

PilotGuy77 06-11-2013 04:30 PM

Maybe they ran out of 5K bonus pays! LOL JOKING....

RJ Pilot 06-11-2013 04:40 PM

Pssst... They can't upgrade if they can't hire.
Btw. They are done with FOQ next month.

What 06-11-2013 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1426647)
Pssst... They can't upgrade if they can't hire.
Btw. They are done with FOQ next month.

Psst, they have a significant amount of FO across the system and they have new hires awaiting training.... AMR is playing catch up in training. They are can walking flight because they dot have CA, so they are front loading training to get CA on the line in case we do that flow thingy.

RJ Pilot 06-11-2013 05:07 PM

If you have been here long enough, then you should know by now that every summer they go through the same staffing crisis. In the meantime, I keep banking on that 150% critical coverage.

What 06-11-2013 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1426657)
If you have been here long enough, then you should know by now that every summer they go through the same staffing crisis. In the meantime, I keep banking on that 150% critical coverage.

And most other airlines. United is doing it, AA is doing it along with most regionals. Same crap everywhere! But I am with you, it's your gain.

What 06-11-2013 05:40 PM

On the forum where RJ Pilot got his information there has been plenty of pilots chime that Eagle IS currently hiring and that re-apply in 60 days is for folks whom have been turned away but have been told they are welcome to reapply in 60 days. Sorry RJ, your "horses mouth" apparently was mistaken.

Some guys are saying that they have talked to their buddies in recruitment whom say it's business at the beagle!

Wingtips 06-11-2013 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1426657)
If you have been here long enough, then you should know by now that every summer they go through the same staffing crisis. In the meantime, I keep banking on that 150% critical coverage.

hope your not doing it during your vacation, you will only get 130% no matter what the company sells.

RJ Pilot 06-11-2013 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1426686)
hope your not doing it during your vacation, you will only get 130% no matter what the company sells.

I know that. I keep my paid vac weeks in Dec.

eaglefly 06-11-2013 07:24 PM

Note to all aspiring regional pilots; Apparently other sources are claiming going to certain other carriers as opposed to Eagle would be a big mistake. It's being said there is "whispering" behind the scenes that good things are in store for the Beagle !

embraer 06-11-2013 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1426744)
Note to all aspiring regional pilots; Apparently other sources are claiming going to certain other carriers as opposed to Eagle would be a big mistake. It's being said there is "whispering" behind the scenes that good things are in store for the Beagle !

Heard the whispers as well. In fact I even heard a date...and it is near.

astec 06-12-2013 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1426750)
Heard the whispers as well. In fact I even heard a date...and it is near.

What's the subject of the whispers?

Wingtips 06-12-2013 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by astec (Post 1426846)
What's the subject of the whispers?

Shrinking fleet, delayed flow, lies about vacation pay, metered 824, and USAirway's demanding us to be cost competitive with pinnacle or the beatings continue.

astec 06-12-2013 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1426853)
Shrinking fleet, delayed flow, lies about vacation pay, metered 824, and USAirway's demanding us to be cost competitive with pinnacle or the beatings continue.

Those aren't whispers, those are facts

RJ Pilot 06-12-2013 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1426853)
Shrinking fleet, delayed flow, lies about vacation pay, metered 824, and USAirway's demanding us to be cost competitive with pinnacle or the beatings continue.

You forgot PBS.

Mason32 06-12-2013 05:03 AM


It has come to my attention that Eagle is no longer hiring as of now. Reapply in 60 days.:eek:
I think your boy missed the mark this time. That is, if your source is that raving mad attack dog on the other forum.

He gets good info the majority of the time. But when he's wrong; he's wrong big time.

We have a few like him on our boards too. Usually reliable. Not so much this time though.

What 06-12-2013 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1426868)
I think your boy missed the mark this time. That is, if your source is that raving mad attack dog on the other forum.

He gets good info the majority of the time. But when he's wrong; he's wrong big time.

We have a few like him on our boards too. Usually reliable. Not so much this time though.

Mason you have it all wrong!



Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1426581)
No eaglelounge here. My very good FO told me so and then I went straight to the source.

I asked the specifics from the "source" and this is what I got. I wonder whom his source is? We know his FO read it on EL, so then RJ went straight to EL to read it himself.


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1426586)
Refer to post#3. Do you even read the post?

The guy Mason is referring is an emotional guy who often does bring good information and arguments to light but he is wrong at times as well. But RJ is just an angry person who tries to spread fear and gloom, he thrives on Eagle's struggles and celebrates when things happen that affect people. RJ you are just twisting words and spreading fear, we call you out on it on a daily basis but you continue...

Wingtips 06-12-2013 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by astec (Post 1426860)
Those aren't whispers, those are facts


That's the truth, not all this Internet junk. Worst of it is this mec might actually b scale new hires to get shiny planes and fast upgrades, to minimize cuts for those here now.

What 06-12-2013 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1426889)
That's the truth, not all this Internet junk. Worst of it is this mec might actually b scale new hires to get shiny planes and fast upgrades, to minimize cuts for those here now.

I am not sure how a B scale would work, specially a B scale for new hires who account for so little already. How will American Eagle compete with other regionals when we have a B Scale unless our upgrade times are much lower than everyone else and that is highly unlikely because you have many guys at Eagle like RJ who will ride this puppy to the ground or retirement.

The MEC has over the last few years given away stuff that affects the junior pilots the most in exchange for keeping the senior guys happy.

Company says we need this much from the captains as they are to expensive, the union says we'll give you that much but spread it around and the company says yes just to turn around and say we need this much more because the senior pilots cost to much and the union says we'll spread it around and this goes on and on. This is how negotiations have gone the last few years. This happened on the BK TA and this is what is happening today. But a B scale is not really going to work unless it has some guarantee at American and I am not talking about just an interview or 35% of classes with 3k guys ahead of you. I think this is all a push to get PBS passed as well as some items the company is not happy with in the contract.

What 06-12-2013 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1426853)
Shrinking fleet, delayed flow, lies about vacation pay, metered 824, and USAirway's demanding us to be cost competitive with pinnacle or the beatings continue.

Shrinking fleet:
ATR fleet gone
ERJ-135 scheduled to be gone in 6 months (18ish aircraft)
(2014 is when the so called fleet replacement is/was supposed to start)

Delayed Flow:
Due to APA's timeline, an AA furlough must be on property by 1 August to be able to partake in the 75-100K payout. This made the July classed the latest for people to accept recall, many guys waited until the last minute as to allow the junior folks to go ahead of them in the pipeline and give themselves some cushion and time.

Lies about vacation pay:
We gave away some of the premium in vacation pay during the BK contract, what lies are you talking about? I haven't heard any issues with VAC pay yet, but I am sure there will be since the current American Eagle management is using our contract as wrapping paper while they pack their offices.

Metered 824:
Likely, but remains to be seen. It will be hard for Eagle to offer a B scale, staff a replacement fleet and flow pilots at a high rate with other attrition so something will have to give.

US Airways demanding lower cost:
Sure they are asking for concession due to the "non-competitive" cost our senior pilots provide, but I still stand that this is more posturing to ensure that PBS is passed and other items are squared away in the contract that will give the company a large amount of savings as it takes away our ability to make some extra $$$$.

RJ Pilot 06-12-2013 06:37 AM

We still have 135's? I feel really bad for those pax!

MikeB525 06-12-2013 04:40 PM

What's the reason for so many being opposed to PBS?

What 06-12-2013 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by MikeB525 (Post 1427242)
What's the reason for so many being opposed to PBS?

Because PBS is all about language and rules. Well AMR has a track record of twisting language and we have no duty or trip rigs. Also PBS negotiated in BK will be nothing like what ASA has.

Mason32 06-13-2013 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1426885)
Mason you have it all wrong!

The guy Mason is referring is an emotional guy who often does bring good information and arguments to light but he is wrong at times as well. But RJ is just an angry person who tries to spread fear and gloom, he thrives on Eagle's struggles and celebrates when things happen that affect people. RJ you are just twisting words and spreading fear, we call you out on it on a daily basis but you continue...

I hadn't heard him described as emotional. I've heard him described as committed and determined; but not emotional. That's a new one. I'll keep it in mind.

I also hear he is accurate much more than not; but when he's wrong.... he's way off. He seems to have good sources from our side of the fence as well. Not sure how to take him yet. Do you know who he is? is he a CA or FO? young guy, older guy? Just trying to figure out what makes him tick.

What 06-13-2013 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1427830)
I hadn't heard him described as emotional. I've heard him described as committed and determined; but not emotional. That's a new one. I'll keep it in mind.

I also hear he is accurate much more than not; but when he's wrong.... he's way off. He seems to have good sources from our side of the fence as well. Not sure how to take him yet. Do you know who he is? is he a CA or FO? young guy, older guy? Just trying to figure out what makes him tick.

I don't know him personally, I know who he is and know people who know him. He is a very smart guy, sometimes it sounds like he is going on a rant and that's what I mean emotional. He cares and he wants to see us do well. He is involved with the local union and he is well informed most of the time. I am not sure about his age but I know this isn't his first career and he is at least in his mid 30's.

What makes him tick. He was very involved with the union and things didn't wen't south. He has his sources and something happen where he supposedly came across some information that was supposed to be on the wraps. The MEC came after him hard trying to get him fired. He has been calling the MEC on their shenanigans for a while even before this incident but I am sure that what Tony and company did helped his determination. He has been one of the guys spearheading the recall of the MEC and they don't like that one bit. He has also been one of the guys looking into the funds abuse and he really stroke a nerve as many of the things he had been saying were accurate.

Tony tried to get him fired because of NDA stuff but were unable to prove it.

I don't know if he has an agenda, but he doesn't have an agenda against the pilots. He could be a good asset for the union but due to the corruption at the head of our union he is not being utilized. He is not someone who you probably want as the face of the union but he could do a good job supporting. The problem is that Tony has an agenda and anyone who gets in his ways gets screwed. Tony hates the pilots, we are a hinderance to him. As days go by more people are realizing this but I still think that we don't have enough people who care to make a difference so we will continue to have the issues we've been having.

Mason32 06-13-2013 05:37 PM



Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1427830)
I hadn't heard him described as emotional. I've heard him described as committed and determined; but not emotional. That's a new one. I'll keep it in mind.

I also hear he is accurate much more than not; but when he's wrong.... he's way off. He seems to have good sources from our side of the fence as well. Not sure how to take him yet. Do you know who he is? is he a CA or FO? young guy, older guy? Just trying to figure out what makes him tick.

I don't know him personally, I know who he is and know people who know him. He is a very smart guy, sometimes it sounds like he is going on a rant and that's what I mean emotional. He cares and he wants to see us do well. He is involved with the local union and he is well informed most of the time. I am not sure about his age but I know this isn't his first career and he is at least in his mid 30's.

What makes him tick. He was very involved with the union and things didn't wen't south. He has his sources and something happen where he supposedly came across some information that was supposed to be on the wraps. The MEC came after him hard trying to get him fired. He has been calling the MEC on their shenanigans for a while even before this incident but I am sure that what Tony and company did helped his determination. He has been one of the guys spearheading the recall of the MEC and they don't like that one bit. He has also been one of the guys looking into the funds abuse and he really stroke a nerve as many of the things he had been saying were accurate.

Tony tried to get him fired because of NDA stuff but were unable to prove it.

I don't know if he has an agenda, but he doesn't have an agenda against the pilots. He could be a good asset for the union but due to the corruption at the head of our union he is not being utilized. He is not someone who you probably want as the face of the union but he could do a good job supporting. The problem is that Tony has an agenda and anyone who gets in his ways gets screwed. Tony hates the pilots, we are a hinderance to him. As days go by more people are realizing this but I still think that we don't have enough people who care to make a difference so we will continue to have the issues we've been having.
Sounds like a guy worth knowing. Wish we had more like that over here.
Sounds like Tony tried to burn the wrong guy.

Keep up the good work. With us as short as we are and the industry hiring projections; I'd bet the US demands are just a last minute grab for more concessions. I'll bet it wouldn't change their plans either way.


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