If you'd just look a little bit into the history if this company, you'd find that BK is really out of the question.

Having said that, my opinion is most if those guys wish it was still just ASA and if there was a way to facilitate this quickly, so the bleeding from the ExpJet side could be mitigated, they will find a way to do it. You can use your imagination as to how they will do this. But it will not be thru the BK courts.

Nevets,

ALPA was not the sole author of KCM. They sponsored its implementation with A4A. It was a program expanded from its CrewPASS predecessor. Even if ALPA didn't sponsor the program, it would most likely still be here today.

Do you ever travel on United? Do you enjoy not having to pay those crazy segment fees united tried to push on to every express carrier? It wasn't ALPA that got United to back off that plan, it was Skywest.

Just like when they had never furloughed in the history of the company?

The merger is almost complete. That's impossible now. We're in this together and I don't think that's a good thing.

This is technically correct. ALPA was the 800 pound gorilla that forced TSA to finally roll it out (then took credit for it), but the airlines (management) pay for it. To the tune of $25/crewmember/month. So really, you don't need to thank ALPO for it, though they do like to take credit for everything good in the industry, and blame management for everything bad.

Right, just like the Frontier division is the most profitable part of RJET. That's why Bedford is trying so hard to sell it.

Not that I ever agree with Tony, but you're really not comparing apples to apples here, fwiw.

AnchorDown

You can pay when your group votes to exercise their constitutional right to organize. By the way, we wouldn't have gone out of business. If you believe that CAL would've have let that happen, then I don't know what to tell you. I'll take your silence on everything else as tacit agreement.

See my post above. It was all a sham to begin with.

Anyway, go ahead and make personal attacks agains me if that's all you have. It just shows when someone points out facts you don't like, people resort to ad hominim arguments.

I have NEVER said that kcm was solely from ALPA. ALPA was overwhelmingly the biggest contributor to it but CAPA and even the AFA collaborated. It goes all the way back to crew pass in which ALPA donated the equipment for it. Crew pass wouldn't even had existed if it wasn't for ALPA. Anyway, my point is that our dues helped pay for that. What did YOU do to help out?

PS. Don't even get us started on the wonderful pass benefits Skywest has negotiated for us. It's ten times worse than what we used to have.

ALPA did all the legwork for it. They lobbied for it. They came up with the concept of crew pass using cass and provided the funding for the equipment to run that test program for years. This was before anyone was interested in lifting a finger for us for this. A4A later came on board but that was only after tons of persuasion from ALPA because the TSA didn't want to pay for it. None of this would have ever happened if ALPA wouldn't have taken the initiative and pushed for it for years.

Regardless, it's ONE example of dozens of safety and security initiatives ALPA and other unions have helped bring to fruition that we all take for granted every time we or any family or friend travels on an aircraft. But at least I help continue these initiatives rather than coat tail on them and have an attitude of, who cares I got mine.

FYI, Delta shutdown Comair after paying $1.8B in 1999 whereas they only paid $700M for the remaining 78% of ASA in 1999 (that puts ASAs value in 1999 just under $900M or half of Comairs). Delta then sold them for $425M (see link below). Delta didn't give 3-sheets about ASA, they were nothing more than a pawn in play and Inc. cashed in.

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/02/17/business/delta-to-buy-rest-of-stake-in-atlantic.html

http://inc.skywest.com/invest/investor_releases/2005/Aug/Delta_PR_8-15-05.pdf