Dont' forget the loss of 100 airframes that will be parked due to SCOPE on SKW and the 150 at EXJ. I have been screaming this here for a while but everyone is drinking the cool aid. SKW will shrink, they currently do to much feed for United and Delta. No way they will be allowed to control the marker. SKW folks this saddens me to say, but welcome to being like the other regionals, soon you will be upset by your concessions and smaller paychecks and the operation will likely slow down, you guys won't be as helpful and you will join us. But like Slats says, your management is very smart!

Oh right, because Pinnacle pilots wouldn't have gotten worse pay and work rules without a union. Management wouldn't even have to ask a judge for permission.

Not true at all, our PPM is a legally binding document that management cannot change just because they feel like it. It must still go through SAPA and the pilot group. Misinformation like this doesn't help either my friend.

Oh right, because non union airlines like VX and Skywest have a history of forced paycuts. Sorry, but that medal belongs to union ALPA carrier. And if 9E was non-union, it wouldn't have cone down to that. Those Colgan guys sitting at home would sit at home with zero pay. And I'd furlough them.

I swear a lot of you guys are cheering for SkyWest to fall... Why would you not want us to succeed and raise the bar for the regionals?

Misery loves company.

Is not cheering, mane of the folks at SKW believe that they are above the regional issues and will soon be getting smacked by the company just like the rest of us. It's the cool aid!

They have never changed anything without the permission of SAPA and without pilot ratification? Or is there some other document that they can change willy nilly? What labor law requires the company to adhere to this PMM? You are at-will employees, right?

Nice straw man argument. Your point was that ALPA is the reason for their concessions. My only counter point is that if they were non-union, they would be worse off. Keep in mind the fact that the judge denied management's first attempt at abrogating the pinnacle pilots' contract. That is proof that they would have been worse off if they were non-union because they wouldn't even need the permission of a judge.

No, SkyWest has never changed anything in this document without either a SAPA or entire pilot group vote. They have interpreted policies within this document differently than was intended, but name one airline that hasn't done this. There is a process for grievances and the like contained within our "contract". Also, the PPM is a legally enforceable document between the company and SAPA under the Railway Labor Act. And no, we are not "at-will employees". Once we are off the probationary period we are entitled to a disciplinary and representation system that is very similar to other union carriers. Once again, stop spouting off fancy words and get your facts straight. You don't work here and obviously have no clue how things really work.

I simply asked five questions. Why are you so defensive of questions?

I know for a fact that SAPA is not recognized by the NMB as a bargaining agent for the Skywest pilots. So how would the you fall under the RLA?

But I see that you agree that it's like any other company that reinterprets work rules. As for being at-will, unless your grievance process includes binding arbitration for termination hearings, then I don't really see the difference.

Also, assuming you are correct about it being legally binding, how do you enforce that? Who pays for the lawsuit, in other words?