Poll on Regional Pilot Pay
 

If it were up to you, what would 2nd year pay be for CAs and FOs on 50-, 70- and 90-seat regional jets?

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No...there are no 70 seaters at mainline US Airways. PSA operates CR7s, MAG operates CR9s, Republic operates the 170/175. Mainline will fly the 190 only.

CR2/EM4 CA/FO
Year 1 $50/30
Year 2 $65/39
Year 3 $69/41.40
Year 4 $72/43.20
Year 5 $75/45
Year 8 $80/48
Year 10 $85/51 (FO cap)
Year 12 $90/51
Year 15 $95/51 (CA cap)

FO pay is 60% of CA rates. CR7/E170 seat pay should be a 10% premium on 50 seat rates; CR705-900/E175-190 seat pay should be a 25% premium on 50 seat rates. Longevity for CAs on the CR7 scale and larger would go to 18 years, FOs to 12 years.

3% COLA every year.
$2.00 perdiem, up a dime every year.
3.5:1 trip rig, 2:1 duty rig, 4 hr min day credit.

Purely academic, right?:p

I like the payscale above. I think that is fine!

I am a big fan of the approximately $1 a seat for captains. Slightly higher on the lower end, slightly lower on the higher end. FO's about 60% of captain pay.
Captain of a 50 seat jet should start at $60 an hour.
First officer of a 50 seat jet should start at $30 an hour.

This 1st year pay crap is total B.S. And for some reason, EVERY airline can, and still does get away with it!! Even at GOOD airlines like FedEx, UPS, and American, you start of with crappy pay. This needs to get fixed.

UPS first year --> $33
FedEx first year --> $54
American first year --> $35
Continental first year --> $30
Northwest first year --> $30
Southwest first year --> $52
United first year --> $31

Does ANYONE see a problem here?? Not everyone will make it to widebody captain pay at these airlines, but EVERYONE will experience first year pay. This same phenomenom (sp?) is present at the regional level. $19 an hour. That is crap. $23 an hour. That is crap. Regional pilots need to start of at $30 for a jet FO. Beech 1900 and EMB-120 can start slightly lower ($25 minimum). But the way it is now needs to be fixed.


Start fighting for first year pay when your next contract negotiations come up!

What scares me more than anything is ..... 50..70.. 90 seat regional jets... What region do they serve? Was born in the wrong decade, take me back to the TWA days of 250tt and a comm ticket= connie job.

I think the pay scale above is a step in the right direction.

the reason airline pay is so low the first year is to help offset the cost of training the new hires, and also because you won't be online flying for the first few months. JMO

I agree it sucks monkey balls

I'd vote for that TA.

I would be more supportive of a payscale that is salary based - ie get rid of this "per hour" stuff all together.

If you pick up flying on your days off, it would be paid at an override of your "day rate" that is figured out based on your salary and "days available".

IOW, $30,000/yr salary, 14 days of work per month = $180/day, pick up a day trip and it would be worth $270.

Of course, contract language would have to be drafted that would increase the days off because the company could schedule 14-16 hours per day of "use" out of you (and they would, otherwise if they built pairings with 4 hours duty time it wouldn't be very efficient).

The problem with a salary is that they have no incentive to keep your workday short...mesa has no work rules and they get 6 hour lunch breaks all the time.

I prefer a payscale based on duty time...whether I fly or sit on my @ss is up to the company, but if I am at work I want to get paid. You also need a high minimum days off, say 14.