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Sr. Barco 08-31-2013 09:51 AM

PIC type rating requirement for SIC
 
I posted this in the Major section but it is probably more relevant here.

Did anyone else get this memo?

Effective this month CFR 14 FAR 121.436(b) states:
"No certificate holder may use nor may any pilot act as second in command unless the pilot holds an airline transport pilot certificate and appropriate type rating for the aircraft being flown. A second-in-command type rating obtained under 61.55 does not satisfy the requirements of this section."

CFR 14 FAR 121.436(d) states:
"Compliance with the requirements of this section is required by August 1, 2013. However, for those pilots who are employed as second in command in part 121 operations on August 31, 2013, compliance with the type rating requirement in paragraph (b) is not required until January 1, 2016."

Has this already been discussed on here? Looks like another hurdle for 121 ops.

Is offline 08-31-2013 10:10 AM

For the past two years all of the regionals have been giving pic types when the FO's go thru recurrent. If you don't have a pic type now your not legal

Irishish 08-31-2013 10:14 AM

I always wondered why they put this on the certificate though...

THIS CERTIFICATE IS SUBJECT TO PILOT-IN-COMMAND LIMITATION(S) FOR DHC-8

Sr. Barco 08-31-2013 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 1474146)
For the past two years all of the regionals have been giving pic types when the FO's go thru recurrent. If you don't have a pic type now your not legal

OK. I didn't realize that. I wonder if the majors have been doing the same. It has been irrelevant at SWA until the Airtran deal.

dogismycopilot 08-31-2013 10:45 AM

I fly for a LCC and I don't have a PIC type. I probably won't have one before 2014.

biigD 08-31-2013 10:58 AM

At my LCC, all new hires are getting full types, and the existing FOs will be fully typed on their next scheduled recurrent.

Mason32 08-31-2013 11:05 AM


For the past two years all of the regionals have been giving pic types when the FO's go thru recurrent. If you don't have a pic type now your not legal
Not correct; not all.. In fact only a small minority if regionals were PIC typing FO's.

gold 08-31-2013 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Irishish (Post 1474149)
I always wondered why they put this on the certificate though...

THIS CERTIFICATE IS SUBJECT TO PILOT-IN-COMMAND LIMITATION(S) FOR DHC-8

This might be a limitation if it's your first PIC type rating.

PeopleMover90 08-31-2013 12:14 PM

FAA provided relief for FOs that had an ATP and SIC type. PIC type IF the certificate holder already has an ATP must be completed by 01/02/2016.

OB Pilot 08-31-2013 04:04 PM

Only an issue if new to the 121 world or moving to a new airline, then SIC's will need a PIC type rating.


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