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SUX4U 09-28-2013 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by toomanyrjs (Post 1492265)
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Ohh man, you really have issues if you can not even post something without having to delete it. Is it just too much to try and be a good guy these days? Disregard feeling bad for you... my **** wont be putting your flames out anytime soon.

NoHandHold 09-30-2013 08:00 AM

Ok so here is what I gathered for cons:

1. Max captain pay goes from $99 to $87

2. Max FO pay goes from $41 to $39

3. 10 year contract

So the rest of the contract remains the same from the past few years?

seafeye 09-30-2013 08:52 AM

Max captain pay isn't set. Well it is at year 12. But if you are a 6 year captain and bust two interviews you are locked in at 6 year pay till you quit.
Airplanes are not defined as growth or replacement. Airways has 2 years to deliver.
Is it realistic that people would be stuck on 6 year captain pay? No. But 8,9,10,11 is.

pagey 09-30-2013 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by NoHandHold (Post 1493593)
Ok so here is what I gathered for cons:

1. Max captain pay goes from $99 to $87

2. Max FO pay goes from $41 to $39

3. 10 year contract

So the rest of the contract remains the same from the past few years?

Yes, but the difference in pay is actually a little less due to an increase in our blended rate....The FO pay will probably be the same. I think the captain pay will be around 90. We will also receive a 1%/year increase so by the end the captain rate will be close to caught up.

But........We also took a 7% increase in medical costs over time.

Also if you interview twice at airways and dont make it your pay is frozen at current longevity. Same if you decide not to apply to airways. This is by far the worst part of the agreement IMO.

Airways has "sole discretion" while deciding if PSA has qualified applicants at any given time and their obligation to hire us will be met if they decide no one is.

Lastly, there is nothing that guarantees these acft are actually growth.

So it's a lot worse than what you posted.


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