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Old 10-01-2013 | 05:23 PM
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but they don't lose there slot. metering is minimum 20 per month by arbitrator. that's 240 per year, 150 is a non issue. be less off the street.
They don't lose their slot true, but AA's release said they were doing 50 a month til summer which leads me to believe they'll hire to staff summer then stop til the following year which would most likely give them class sizes large enough to meter Eagle guys. Only time will tell but mathematically it looks like it'll be awhile for the 824 to be gone.
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Old 10-02-2013 | 04:11 AM
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They don't lose their slot true, but AA's release said they were doing 50 a month til summer which leads me to believe they'll hire to staff summer then stop til the following year which would most likely give them class sizes large enough to meter Eagle guys. Only time will tell but mathematically it looks like it'll be awhile for the 824 to be gone.
Your anger and pessimism interferes with your ability to comprehend the information presented, there is a difference between "til summer" and "through at least summer". AA did not open a hiring window, they started hiring for the long haul with the expectation of 1,500 pilots in 5 years and 45-50 a month for the next 9-12 months including Eagle pilots. So far AA has said it will not meter and it plans to send 25 AE pilots mixed in with the first 50 new hires. The first 25 AE pilots have been identified.


"American currently anticipates the need to initially hire approximately 45 to 50 pilots per month through at least summer 2014, including pilots from American Eagle Airlines, Inc. and the appropriate balance from external sources."
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Old 10-02-2013 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
but they don't lose there slot. metering is minimum 20 per month by arbitrator. that's 240 per year, 150 is a non issue. be less off the street.
They don't lose their slot true, but AA's release said they were doing 50 a month til summer which leads me to believe they'll hire to staff summer then stop til the following year which would most likely give them class sizes large enough to meter Eagle guys. Only time will tell but mathematically it looks like it'll be awhile for the 824 to be gone.
Eagle is shrinking and there are not plane orders for us.

I bet they want to get as much people making 80k + to the 40k first year pay. People is saying yes like crazy in our 824 website.

Management already said also that we will be parking some E-140 next year. Why furlough pilots if you can keep the JR guy with our crappy salary and get rid of the expensive captain?
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Old 10-02-2013 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Eagle is shrinking and there are not plane orders for us.

I bet they want to get as much people making 80k + to the 40k first year pay. People is saying yes like crazy in our 824 website.

Management already said also that we will be parking some E-140 next year. Why furlough pilots if you can keep the JR guy with our crappy salary and get rid of the expensive captain?
There are 145's being returned as well. They are not necessarily returning all the 140's first.
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Old 10-02-2013 | 08:12 AM
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We have two UAL guys that bypassed; one not only bypassed, he resigned. Two AA guys are waiting out the 3 year countdown and then may or may not resign. There are gigs better than majors, especially if combination of age and seniority mean years as an F/O and never a chance at WB Captain.

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So..what about all those United furlough recalls that are bypassing? What the heck are they doing that's so much better than going back to UAL, if indeed that job is the end-all-be-all that some of us make it to be?

This career has certainly handed me some lessons along the way, and one of them is to chalk up the experience to the big adventure I call "Life."
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Old 10-02-2013 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
There are gigs better than majors, especially if combination of age and seniority mean years as an F/O and never a chance at WB Captain.

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Can you give a few examples of better gigs? Do you mean overseas stuff or are you talking low cost carriers? Did you mean to say better gigs than the legacies? Honest question. Thanks.
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Old 10-02-2013 | 03:17 PM
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I just talked to an AA furloughee here at Spirit. He (I'm 99%) sure resigned from AA. He's a CA here, junior-middle ish of the pack I think
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Old 10-02-2013 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
They don't lose their slot true, but AA's release said they were doing 50 a month til summer which leads me to believe they'll hire to staff summer then stop til the following year which would most likely give them class sizes large enough to meter Eagle guys. Only time will tell but mathematically it looks like it'll be awhile for the 824 to be gone.
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Old 10-02-2013 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by What
Your anger and pessimism interferes with your ability to comprehend the information presented, there is a difference between "til summer" and "through at least summer". AA did not open a hiring window, they started hiring for the long haul with the expectation of 1,500 pilots in 5 years and 45-50 a month for the next 9-12 months including Eagle pilots. So far AA has said it will not meter and it plans to send 25 AE pilots mixed in with the first 50 new hires. The first 25 AE pilots have been identified.


"American currently anticipates the need to initially hire approximately 45 to 50 pilots per month through at least summer 2014, including pilots from American Eagle Airlines, Inc. and the appropriate balance from external sources."
45-50 a month puts them on pace for more than 1500 over 5 years. This is not "long haul".
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Old 10-02-2013 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
45-50 a month puts them on pace for more than 1500 over 5 years. This is not "long haul".
I bet you're just a peach to fly with on a 4-day...
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