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Old 10-02-2013 | 09:45 PM
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Oh ok LOL I missed that part.
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Old 10-03-2013 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
Retirement numbers are very small for the next 5 years, they've been widely exaggerated around here but guys who've flowed over have showed people in the crew room the numbers. Something like 63 next year increasing over the next 5 but doesn't hit anything significant til 5+. Alot of those projected hiring numbers are based off expansion, which is speculation.
Your retirement #s are technically correct, but what you are failing to take into account is that airlines don't start hiring **right when** the mass retirements take place - they start hiring **well before** that point. Which is precisely why AA, DL, UA are all cranking up hiring #s that seem to be well above retirement #s.

Also, AA has a lot more catching up to do WRT route expansion than, say, UAL and DAL, which did a lot of their growing the past 5 years.

These are the reasons why I know AA will hire significantly more than just 300/yr.
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Old 10-03-2013 | 03:24 AM
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Delta hasn't done any growing since we merged with North West 5 years ago, we've been consolidating instead, by eliminating route overlap.
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Old 10-03-2013 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JetMonkey
Dude, your 30. You already have some longevity at your airline, have 35 years left and you're talking like your life is over already. I didn't even get hired at my regional until I was 30 and that was 13 years ago at the start of the worst decade in aviation history but I still managed to make it to a major. Here you are in the same position at the forefront of the best outlook the airlines have had in years!

My advice would be to count your blessings, keep working that network and DRASTICALLY change your attitude... just trying to help ya!
I know I'd end up at a major eventually, with about 15 years left in my career. The problem is I'm not in it for the money just the time off. By that time I would be unable to hold the schedules I wanted at any point in my career. At this point I'm Eagle til I retire unless I can upgrade and use the extra money to go back to school and get a new career.

Honestly this worthless career is the only bad part of my life, since that's all this forum is about it probably seems like I'm a lot more unhappy than I really am.
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Old 10-03-2013 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
I know I'd end up at a major eventually, with about 15 years left in my career. The problem is I'm not in it for the money just the time off. By that time I would be unable to hold the schedules I wanted at any point in my career. At this point I'm Eagle til I retire unless I can upgrade and use the extra money to go back to school and get a new career.

Honestly this worthless career is the only bad part of my life, since that's all this forum is about it probably seems like I'm a lot more unhappy than I really am.
with that said, just stay at Eagle and become super senior at Eagle. You can (in theory) then have control over your days and time off and do what you want. Remember, you are not in it for the money, altho I am sure senior Eagle Capt is what ?? 125K ?? Can't shake a stick at that, when most of America is worried about health care and doesn't earn more than 75K.

With half the 1500 being flow-thrus to AA, and the UAL/SWA/DAL hiring that is underway or planned, Eagle should have some upward movement for the guy who looks at the chess board and says "I am dropping anchor here".

my comments regarding Eagle are admittedly thru the lens of the Legacy Eagle view, what animal Eagle turns into in 5 years is anyones guess.
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Old 10-03-2013 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by satpak77
With half the 1500 being flow-thrus to AA, and the UAL/SWA/DAL hiring that is underway or planned, Eagle should have some upward movement for the guy who looks at the chess board and says "I am dropping anchor here".
Movement but no vacancy bids for upgrades, they are not planning for it.
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Old 10-03-2013 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
Sulkair,

These guys are in stable, corporate jobs paying north of 150k with good skeds. It's all about the trade-offs that work for the individual. One has a 10-minute commute; has planned time off; good benefits and loves the job. No, not easy to find.

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The flip side of that is there are pilots at UPS applying to AA. After commuting to ANC for 7+ years and sitting reserve or being a junior line holder, some are willing to trade the money for daytime flying and upward movement.
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Old 10-03-2013 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by satpak77
with that said, just stay at Eagle and become super senior at Eagle. You can (in theory) then have control over your days and time off and do what you want. Remember, you are not in it for the money, altho I am sure senior Eagle Capt is what ?? 125K ?? Can't shake a stick at that, when most of America is worried about health care and doesn't earn more than 75K.

With half the 1500 being flow-thrus to AA, and the UAL/SWA/DAL hiring that is underway or planned, Eagle should have some upward movement for the guy who looks at the chess board and says "I am dropping anchor here".

my comments regarding Eagle are admittedly thru the lens of the Legacy Eagle view, what animal Eagle turns into in 5 years is anyones guess.
As RJ Pilot said they're not planning on upgrading anyone. The flow is just going to help them shrink the carrier withough furloughing. I figure that being said I'll upgrade in about 5 years which would be the 8 year upgrade that's common right now. That puts me at 35 and schooling being another 2+ years ill " hopefully" be making a career change at 37. Hope it's not too late.
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Old 10-03-2013 | 09:35 AM
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Does Aa provide a hotels and what is pay in training? Per diem?
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Old 10-03-2013 | 09:41 AM
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I know I'd end up at a major eventually, with about 15 years left in my career. The problem is I'm not in it for the money just the time off. By that time I would be unable to hold the schedules I wanted at any point in my career. At this point I'm Eagle til I retire unless I can upgrade and use the extra money to go back to school and get a new career.
Excellent.

Honestly this worthless career is the only bad part of my life, since that's all this forum is about it probably seems like I'm a lot more unhappy than I really am.
Most definitely, your best career path is to stay put. As you've deduced, this hiring announcement is meaningless, trivial, and below your notice. Nothing to see, move along...
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