Does Eagle really only require 200 XC?
11-28-2013 | 07:49 AM
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I would like to point out that Cape Air is a decent company. There are no jets, but there are a lot of other qualities you will gain there. Probably keep a fairly positive attitude, and that means more in an interview than turbine time. Not discounting turbine time, it definitely required for some applications. But thinking from a recruiter standpoint, the overall disposition of a person means more once the numbers are met.
Edit: I do not support any company that continually insist on concessions. On the one hand, they want to give a sign on bonus and on the other, ask us to give back. Eventually people will burn it down internally. Not there yet, but the seeds are sown. This is my agenda, to dissuade people from coming here and encourage people to leave for greener pastures, until this attitude is turned. I have a feeling it's RJpilots agenda too. The difference is I admit it here. I highly doubt he actually believes the doom and gloom he preaches, but I understand why.
Edit: I do not support any company that continually insist on concessions. On the one hand, they want to give a sign on bonus and on the other, ask us to give back. Eventually people will burn it down internally. Not there yet, but the seeds are sown. This is my agenda, to dissuade people from coming here and encourage people to leave for greener pastures, until this attitude is turned. I have a feeling it's RJpilots agenda too. The difference is I admit it here. I highly doubt he actually believes the doom and gloom he preaches, but I understand why.
11-28-2013 | 10:16 AM
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Eagle is shrinking, that is not disputed by anyone including the union and company. What the final fleet plan is, who knows?
Yes we are losing people to other airlines and my seniority number has gotten better over the last 3 years however, my relative seniority has not changed since we declared bankruptcy. What this means is that while people are leaving you will not be upgrading even relatively quickly due to the list shrinking from both top and bottom + the loss of aircraft.
We have closed bases in Boston, San Juan, and Los Angeles all in recent memory. Currently Republic is taking a large part of the Chicago flying. While I'm not saying Chicago is closing I am saying that you can't count on bases staying open at Eagle, or any other regional carrier for that matter.
Another concessionary offer will soon be coming from the company, so our contract could be worse by the time you're on line, also PBS is about to be shoved down our throats which will adversely affect your quality of life.
In summation there are better places to apply currently no matter where you live in the country. What you need to ask yourself is what does Eagle have that is better than other regionals. Other than our travel arrangement I can't give you a positive for this company. My advice is do your research and find a place with either a quick upgrade or a contract you could conceivably live with for the duration of your career. I don't believe Eagle offers either of those things.
As to a divestiture that is off the table unfortunately. Divestiture was our best chance of success but unfortunately AMR tanked prior to is accomplishing that goal.
Yes we are losing people to other airlines and my seniority number has gotten better over the last 3 years however, my relative seniority has not changed since we declared bankruptcy. What this means is that while people are leaving you will not be upgrading even relatively quickly due to the list shrinking from both top and bottom + the loss of aircraft.
We have closed bases in Boston, San Juan, and Los Angeles all in recent memory. Currently Republic is taking a large part of the Chicago flying. While I'm not saying Chicago is closing I am saying that you can't count on bases staying open at Eagle, or any other regional carrier for that matter.
Another concessionary offer will soon be coming from the company, so our contract could be worse by the time you're on line, also PBS is about to be shoved down our throats which will adversely affect your quality of life.
In summation there are better places to apply currently no matter where you live in the country. What you need to ask yourself is what does Eagle have that is better than other regionals. Other than our travel arrangement I can't give you a positive for this company. My advice is do your research and find a place with either a quick upgrade or a contract you could conceivably live with for the duration of your career. I don't believe Eagle offers either of those things.
As to a divestiture that is off the table unfortunately. Divestiture was our best chance of success but unfortunately AMR tanked prior to is accomplishing that goal.
The fleet plan for Eagle that we are hearing about calls for you guys getting around 180 EJets to replace EMBs.
With 47 CRJs already on your property that puts you guys at 227... Which is pretty much where you're at now.
Now, the crunch is this. While there are 180 or so more planes in play, nothing says they HAVE to give them to a wholly owned. They will threaten you guys in some way soon.
The key to remember is nobody else has the pilots to fly them.
11-28-2013 | 10:22 AM
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Eagle had over 300 planes at one point. You're down to about 225 if my info is correct. Your EMBs have been extended until 2020 from what we hear. With the exception if a few E140's you're pretty much done shrinking.
The fleet plan for Eagle that we are hearing about calls for you guys getting around 180 EJets to replace EMBs.
With 47 CRJs already on your property that puts you guys at 227... Which is pretty much where you're at now.
Now, the crunch is this. While there are 180 or so more planes in play, nothing says they HAVE to give them to a wholly owned. They will threaten you guys in some way soon.
The key to remember is nobody else has the pilots to fly them.
The fleet plan for Eagle that we are hearing about calls for you guys getting around 180 EJets to replace EMBs.
With 47 CRJs already on your property that puts you guys at 227... Which is pretty much where you're at now.
Now, the crunch is this. While there are 180 or so more planes in play, nothing says they HAVE to give them to a wholly owned. They will threaten you guys in some way soon.
The key to remember is nobody else has the pilots to fly them.
11-28-2013 | 10:57 AM
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Eagle had over 300 planes at one point. You're down to about 225 if my info is correct. Your EMBs have been extended until 2020 from what we hear. With the exception if a few E140's you're pretty much done shrinking.
The fleet plan for Eagle that we are hearing about calls for you guys getting around 180 EJets to replace EMBs.
With 47 CRJs already on your property that puts you guys at 227... Which is pretty much where you're at now.
Now, the crunch is this. While there are 180 or so more planes in play, nothing says they HAVE to give them to a wholly owned. They will threaten you guys in some way soon.
The key to remember is nobody else has the pilots to fly them.
The fleet plan for Eagle that we are hearing about calls for you guys getting around 180 EJets to replace EMBs.
With 47 CRJs already on your property that puts you guys at 227... Which is pretty much where you're at now.
Now, the crunch is this. While there are 180 or so more planes in play, nothing says they HAVE to give them to a wholly owned. They will threaten you guys in some way soon.
The key to remember is nobody else has the pilots to fly them.
Even if we have to have lower rates on the Ejets, it becomes the entry level jet for a major airline. Who in thier right mind would go to Republic, Mesa or anywhere else if they can go straight to AA and bid to bigger planes as their seniority accrues.
11-28-2013 | 01:09 PM
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Eagle had over 300 planes at one point. You're down to about 225 if my info is correct. Your EMBs have been extended until 2020 from what we hear. With the exception if a few E140's you're pretty much done shrinking.
The fleet plan for Eagle that we are hearing about calls for you guys getting around 180 EJets to replace EMBs.
With 47 CRJs already on your property that puts you guys at 227... Which is pretty much where you're at now.
Now, the crunch is this. While there are 180 or so more planes in play, nothing says they HAVE to give them to a wholly owned. They will threaten you guys in some way soon.
The key to remember is nobody else has the pilots to fly them.
The fleet plan for Eagle that we are hearing about calls for you guys getting around 180 EJets to replace EMBs.
With 47 CRJs already on your property that puts you guys at 227... Which is pretty much where you're at now.
Now, the crunch is this. While there are 180 or so more planes in play, nothing says they HAVE to give them to a wholly owned. They will threaten you guys in some way soon.
The key to remember is nobody else has the pilots to fly them.
Even if we have to have lower rates on the Ejets, it becomes the entry level jet for a major airline. Who in thier right mind would go to Republic, Mesa or anywhere else if they can go straight to AA and bid to bigger planes as their seniority accrues.
AA will have E-190 soon also if they keep buying them for Airways.
11-28-2013 | 01:26 PM
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Wishful thinking at best.
11-28-2013 | 01:54 PM
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I have no agenda other than helping people make informed decisions concerning their employment. Instead of saying I have an agenda why don't you refute the points I made that you don't believe are correct.
11-28-2013 | 02:37 PM
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Wishful thinking at best.
I'm happy at eagle and looking forward to my next step in my career. If people just stop looking for upgrades and the negative stuff they might be happy some place.
I wish you the best wherever you go, have fun flying flying for Compass and I hope you"re senior than me so at least I can move 1 more number up.
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