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Slats 05-06-2014 10:19 AM
Originally Posted by Systemized (Post 1637362)
Shortest upgrades(4 years or less); TSA, Gojet, Compass and PSA

Longest upgrades(7 years+); Skywest, Expressjet and Eagle
You're going by history ie past indicators. Those 7+yrs upgrade times should and will go down.

HAL39 05-06-2014 10:48 AM
At Compass: Dec 2011 hires were awarded June class dates for upgrade into LAX in the vacancy award last week. For the time being, LAX is by far the most junior. It takes about 20 from the bottom in LAX in either seat to hold DTW or MSP

Jefferson 05-06-2014 11:24 AM
I HIGHLY recommend basing a job decision in this industry based solely on upgrade times... that has worked out wonderfully for everyone.

rcfd13 05-06-2014 11:47 AM
Originally Posted by Slats (Post 1637375)
You're going by history ie past indicators. Those 7+yrs upgrade times should and will go down.
At the rate we're going the upgrade time is actually increasing. They haven't run an RJ upgrade class with more than 10 people per month this year, and they aren't running any Brasilia upgrades. It's going to take a little more than that for the upgrade time to drop.

The most junior captain at the whole company when I was hired over 2 years ago is still only 20 from the bottom overall for captains.

NovemberBravo 05-06-2014 11:58 AM
15 upgrades a month at Mesa. Unconfirmed but reliable source and seems to be accurate.

Window_Seat 05-06-2014 12:33 PM
Normal upgrade time? We are flying E170, 175's and CRJ 900's. The problem isnlt upgrade time, its pay.

Originally Posted by RV5M (Post 1537464)
What about Mesa?

What I see is the 2013 and early 2014 classes reaching upgrade at around two years, which could continue with some attrition and growth.

We had 9/11 and an economic downturn surpress growth for a decade. Could upgrade times at all of the regionals go back to "normal" in the coming years?

Slats 05-06-2014 05:00 PM
Originally Posted by rcfd13 (Post 1637429)
At the rate we're going the upgrade time is actually increasing. They haven't run an RJ upgrade class with more than 10 people per month this year, and they aren't running any Brasilia upgrades. It's going to take a little more than that for the upgrade time to drop.

The most junior captain at the whole company when I was hired over 2 years ago is still only 20 from the bottom overall for captains.
Ummm, they're running a class of 30 soon

Cruz5350 05-06-2014 06:11 PM
There's been days in ORD with no Captain reserves left according to the guy I flew with the other day, and he was TDY RSV from SLC. I think they're waiting to load up on more FO's so they don't create a shortage in both seats.

amcnd 05-06-2014 06:15 PM
SkyWest just awarded a ton of Captain slots today.. Jr RJ 2/2007 hire date..

MrMustache 05-06-2014 06:15 PM
Originally Posted by HAL39 (Post 1637389)
At Compass: Dec 2011 hires were awarded June class dates for upgrade into LAX in the vacancy award last week. For the time being, LAX is by far the most junior. It takes about 20 from the bottom in LAX in either seat to hold DTW or MSP
With more upgrades planned too. The alternates on that award were Jan 2012 hires. They will get it on the current bid that is open. ( I know you know that, FYI for everyone else)


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