We don't deserve better.
12-20-2013 | 02:46 PM
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If anything we get paid too much. Management keeps bending us over and we just keep taking it. We have no backbone and they know it. We blame the RLA and other airlines undercutting us. We have every excuse but when it comes down to it...it's our own fault. It takes us 6 years to negotiate a crap contract and it takes the airline a few months to tear it up with a BS bankruptcy, threats or promises of bigger airplanes. Stop blaming management and each other and blame yourselves.
Legacy FO's make 5 times what a regional FO makes. Leagacy CA's make 3 or 4 times what regional CA's make. They deserve it. Not because they're better pilots but because we're too pathetic to do anything about it.
I hope Xjet takes the concessions and eventually Eagle too. Might as well. Why should they lose flying while Pinnacle and PSA will probably gain more flying because they sold out.
What a race to the bottom.
Man up, Unite, take it back.
Now to wait for 20 posts with no productive ideas, criticism and excuses about how there's nothing we can do.
Legacy FO's make 5 times what a regional FO makes. Leagacy CA's make 3 or 4 times what regional CA's make. They deserve it. Not because they're better pilots but because we're too pathetic to do anything about it.
I hope Xjet takes the concessions and eventually Eagle too. Might as well. Why should they lose flying while Pinnacle and PSA will probably gain more flying because they sold out.
What a race to the bottom.
Man up, Unite, take it back.
Now to wait for 20 posts with no productive ideas, criticism and excuses about how there's nothing we can do.
12-20-2013 | 02:51 PM
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12-20-2013 | 03:25 PM
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Funny thing.... Most of G7 is full of pilots who held the line at Comair until the end. I don't know who you work for, but if its 9E get off your Soap box, because you don't have a leg to stand on.
12-20-2013 | 04:19 PM
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Whoa there big guy. I don't work for 9E...I got out of there about 5 months ago (hired by Mesaba and acquired by Pinnacle). If you've ready ANY of my previous posts you'd know that. I know you probably don't have time to re read all of my previous posts but at least do some research before telling me to get off my soap box. What's your point about? Are you defending GoJet or previous Comair pilots? I don't have a problem at all with ex-Comair guys. My sim partner at my current airline worked up to the last day at Comair and he's a fantastic pilot and friend.
12-20-2013 | 04:25 PM
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12-20-2013 | 05:51 PM
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Just curious, fast forward 5, maybe 10 years... Do any of you see mainline in at least some of the RJ cockpits? I know United had a CRJ900 pay rate in their new contract (then again they also had A380 pay rates). Does anyone recall what they were? First year pay is $61/hr.....I can see it now "United Airlines hiring into the EMB170, $45/hr starting pay." I guess it depends how you look at it, US Airways operating "regional" sized aircraft, or RAH operating "mainline" sized aircraft.
12-20-2013 | 06:10 PM
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Just curious, fast forward 5, maybe 10 years... Do any of you see mainline in at least some of the RJ cockpits? I know United had a CRJ900 pay rate in their new contract (then again they also had A380 pay rates). Does anyone recall what they were? First year pay is $61/hr.....I can see it now "United Airlines hiring into the EMB170, $45/hr starting pay." I guess it depends how you look at it, US Airways operating "regional" sized aircraft, or RAH operating "mainline" sized aircraft.
12-20-2013 | 07:29 PM
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Valid point, maybe I can't see a mainline United guy in a e145 seat per-say. But I think it's pretty realistic to see them axe 50 seaters, even some 76 seaters, in exchange for their own smaller aircraft, like the 135 seat CS300. At some point the cost increase from a higher salary has to be outweighed by the fee-for-departure mainline pays to it's regionals, especially once these departures start canceling left and right. Obviously there's more to it than that, and if I can predict the future I wouldn't be in aviation. But more seats at mainline could only be good for us, regardless of what seat that aircraft is in.
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