If anything we get paid too much. Management keeps bending us over and we just keep taking it. We have no backbone and they know it. We blame the RLA and other airlines undercutting us. We have every excuse but when it comes down to it...it's our own fault. It takes us 6 years to negotiate a crap contract and it takes the airline a few months to tear it up with a BS bankruptcy, threats or promises of bigger airplanes. Stop blaming management and each other and blame yourselves.

Legacy FO's make 5 times what a regional FO makes. Leagacy CA's make 3 or 4 times what regional CA's make. They deserve it. Not because they're better pilots but because we're too pathetic to do anything about it.

I hope Xjet takes the concessions and eventually Eagle too. Might as well. Why should they lose flying while Pinnacle and PSA will probably gain more flying because they sold out.

What a race to the bottom.
Man up, Unite, take it back.

Now to wait for 20 posts with no productive ideas, criticism and excuses about how there's nothing we can do.

 

Burn it all down. I'd rather go to another industry then work for the likes of Pinnacle or PSA or rather work under their rules...

 

UAL 1 year


DAL 1 year


US Airway stock more than tripped before merging. They're all making money off our cheap labor. Management are giving themselves massive raises and here we are fighting to keep the little we still have.

 

Wouldn't have to burn it down if we politely just said enough is enough. We have social networking. Unite your ideas and pull out of the spin to the ground.

 

Agreed!
It's funny how the %.0001 control the %99.999. The sad part is we let them. We're just slaves. Instead of whips, economic punishment is imposed. The middle class just keeps taking it because we don't want to be low class and we dream of upper class. I am a participator in the system too. Not throwing stones. But at some point you have to look in the mirror and say, enough.
Merry Christmas,

 

I think we have been polite long enough.... Either way its going to be a pull it just depends on if you inverted or not for you fate.

 

Only took Brazilian pilots the threat of a strike until management gave them a 5.6% raise among other things.
No they don't have to deal with the RLA because they wouldn't tolerate such a BS law in the first place and if they did I know they would do whatever it takes anyway regardless of the consequences. We suck.

Brazil airline workers call off strike, accept deal | Reuters

 

How much should regional pilots make annually? Are legacy pilots actually paid too much? What's a fair salary for a first/second year FO? Or a 10 year captain? I read so many posts demanding MORE, but what does that mean?

I can see where salaries get ridiculous on the low end, but many times the high end doesn't make much sense either. It's hard to agree with angry pilots when you don't know whether or not their demands are based in reality.

 

Id venture to say.... It supports moment and a livable wage over all
40RFO
60RCA
90LFO
120LCA

 

I can agree with wages along those lines. Now, if $100k/year regional captains didn't exist, would it be possible to pay FOs slightly more? Or would that just be an excuse to diminsh new hire pay even further?