AE CRJ700's chop chop?
 

Keep hearing rumbles that L-AE CRJ 7's are next in line to get transferred. Company ready to post displacement bid.

Yea, if we dont play ball. They arent going to give them away right now.

While it doesn't make sense to most at AE they very well could. How many embraers do you have? New proposal calls for 60, replace all of them with 170s, get rid of the CRJs. Result? Wait for it... Sold to Republic as an all 170 airline.

oooooh not RAH.

Good thing we have that furlough protection! (sarc. I don't know if they'll honor it).

What's the difference between them honoring the furlough protection and the 60 Ejets or the increased flow?

F-U-D.

Ford & Harrison playbook, page 3.

Stand tough..... don't give up anything. Let them give them away to Republic.

And anyone who takes an interview there...... Welll, ya'll know where they stand. Right???

AE CRJ700's chop chop?
 

What does L-AE mean?

Legacy American Eagle aka the real Eagle. Since everyone and their mother now flies under the AE brand L-AE is used to differentiate AE Airlines from all the others.

It seems slightly narcissistic. In reality, this is all one pilot body. just different people under different contracts.

I am pretty sure anyone that flies from SkyWest, Republic and who ever else that does American flying does not refer to themselves as American Eagle. For anyone outside or the AE circle, I think you will find nobody really cares if you were Legacy American Eagle or not.

This

Filler

so the Eagle under Simmons, Metro, and Chaparral, was not the real Eagle ? the real one was "legacy" Eagle :rolleyes:

you think this is the first time one brand was flown by multiple subcontractors ? how long you been in this business ?

Jesus people I was just answer the dudes question. No reason to argue about semantics.

AE CRJ700's chop chop?
 

Well, I hate to say, I scored barely high enough on my SAT's to learn how to fly a plane, but not to understand the airlines. What's the difference between the "real" Eagle and all the other Eagles?

From what I understand; Simmons, Metro, Chaparral, BizEx, Nashville Eagle, Executive Airlines (although Executive operated on a seperate certificate, up to last year, but payed by AE and under the same MEC) and a few others where all merged together several year ago, or more, to form American Eagle Airline. One company that is now referred to as L-EGL (Legacy Eagle), since now, the "American Eagle" name has been re-purposed as a 'brand' which is now also operated by other outside carriers. And yes, RAH uses the "American Eagle" name on their PA's, and refers to themselves as "American Eagle". (Disclaimer: I'm not saying that they do this on purpose, but that that's the way their pre-recorded PA's and briefing cards address them when operating an AE flight). We use L-EGL to differentiate ourselves from the outside operators when talking about company issues, and to alleviate confusion as to who we are talking about.

Actually this is not true, every SKW and EXJ crew that I've talked to and heard of have always used their airline's name to include their FA. On the hand, RAH pilots and FA routinely say the fly for "Republic Eagle", "American Eagle" or "American". Yes I've hear all 3 of these and I am not the only one. There have been fun explanations to why they call themselves this but the one they use the most is Republic Eagle, on the Eafle Forum there are many threads with FB post from RAH folks calling themselves this and salivating over flying more Ejets on behalf of AA.

***discalimer***. It's new hires who say this crap as they don't know better, but you don't see this with SKW and EXJ. Republic Eagle, ha ha.

LiveLeak.com - I do not want to sit next this guy during flight

While the video is funny listen to the PA. This is what were are talking about when they call them selves American Eagle. Just another slap in the face.

It is a complement that American has decided to keep "American Eagle" brand name and paint all of it's RJ's in this livery. Because it recognizes the hard work we've done over the years to create such a name that the passengers respect. Now to still call us American Eagle and let others do the same is an insult to the hard working employees of L-Eagle.

Listen, instead of making such a big deal about little things like, RAH employees calling themselves "AE", why dont we worry about supporting the REAL American Eagle employees and ask what can we do to support them. RAH, SKW, XJET employees are not at fault and should not be put thru the heat for flying the "forbidden colors".

This is not a war among ourselves, remember that.

...vote no!!!

The best thing you Eagle pilots can do is go work at a major or legacy. Quit fighting to try and save your crappy regional and focus your efforts on getting out of there. Yes, I said "crappy regional" because all regionals are crap compared to a major airline when it comes to pay and quality of life. I see this now that I'm at a major.

The more you guys try to fight and save regional airlines, the longer these places will linger and degrade the profession. If the regionals continue to get worse, my hope is that no one will want to work for them. That, coupled with the pilot shortage, will hopefully cause these cesspool regionals to collapse and put the jobs back where they belong.

Wow, I wish somebody would have told me this while I sat in the right seat for 7 years!

Lol.

You think we want to be stuck here? MANY of us have been trying for YEARS to get hired someplace better. We have apps in everywhere, attend job fairs, have recommendations.. Check all the boxes plus extras, Yet never even get the opportunity to even interview. :rolleyes:

That pax was probably acting that way due to the fact that he was flying on RAH posing as L-American Eagle. I cant imagine if it was PSA or Colgan.

Experience matters!

This is a fact!

Says the guy/gal who has made it to the majors and no longer has a dog in this fight. I agree with you but it is very easy, sitting where you are, to make a comment like the one above no matter how true it is. Congrats on making it to the Majors! Not trying to start a debate. The majority of regional pilots looked at regionals as a stepping stone. Since the airline market is so volatile one never knows when the hiring will pick up at the majors. It's easier to get a job when you have a job and that is especially true with airlines. I've never been at a major so I don't have the perspective that you have but have have no doubt that what you say is 100% true about comparable QOL.




Again congrats on making it to the "show!"

To think all this time I figured regionals were the place to be...

Jesus, what a blue ribbon post of hypocrisy. Now that YOU are at a "major", you belittle those still there as if you were never there and as if it is THEY that are dragging down the profession. You apparently are oblivious to your own little contribution to the existence of regional carriers, especially since they got you where you are and my guess is based on your comments, you didn't lift a finger to make yours a career option for those who don't have the option to go to a major.

That's quite a high horse you're screaming down to the unwashed from there pal.

Why not try to raise the standards at every regional and give mainline less of a financial reason to try to get regionals to accept bigger and bigger aircraft? We all want to see the maximum number of aircraft at mainline that we can.

So many pilots don't understand this.

Why do the mainline guys keep saying that we are dragging down the industry?

Aren't the mainline pilots the ones who allow these big planes AT the regionals?

If they "just said no" then we'd be flying around in Dash's and such still.

That's it!! Because we all know pilots at RAH and other regionals are inexperienced! I'm sure that pax would've been much better off cramped on a CRJ with a 62 year old disgruntled lifer at the helm and an angry FO who blames AA decisions on RAH.

Republic Eagle?!? People really say that? Dont be upset with guys that do that, just feel sympathy and pray that one day they will see the light that nobody really cares how much you try to sweeten up your regionals name.

The Republic of Eagle or The Eagle Republic of American (E.R.A)

Ohhhhh so we are all lesser pilots than u because we flew for Colgan? Ur Saab pilots > CJC Saab pilots. :rolleyes:

Excuse me while I confirm left engine has failed and autocoarsened set max power flaps seven. Oh wait its only been 4 years....

I wonder how many non-pilot airline management personnel read this forum. The reason I ask is because I have a friend in PHX (non-pilot) who is a Fare Analyst for US Airways (soon to be moving to DFW to work at AA HQ). One day HE asked ME if I've ever heard of this forum (I responded "yes" - embarrassingly). He asked if all pilots were big cry babies like the ones that post on here (I responded "no" - emphatically).

Don't you think this forum is common knowledge among airline management personnel (I'm sure many from the flying public have stumbled across this forum as well). I would bet dollars to donuts that airline management LOVE this constant bickering among the pilot groups - and the flying public probably think this profession is a joke.

Who cares. Grow a pair

Tell your fare analyst buddy to raise ticket prices to what they should be. ;-)

^^^ This ^^^

There are the PSA pilots of the industry who cut the legs out from other groups. They think their actions exist in a vacuum and can't see the long term effects if their actions. All in exchange for 12 additional interviews at mainline, some new aircraft and the promise that they are growth and not replacement.