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Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 1553640)

I can't see any relief ever given on these new regs. It's kind of hard to justify taking back years of data driven by scientific studies on fatigue etc. 330 million people in this country and all but about 6 of them don't fly on a regular basis. You can bet your butt the media would have a field day with any motion to change the language to favor the airlines. It took how long to implement it? I can only imagine how long it would take to amend it. By then, any airline that can't hack it will be out of business anyways.

One day all pilots will wake up from living like zombies under this veil of chronic fatigue and wonder where all those years went. Such a blur when you think about it. Being subject to the lifestyle of pre 117 had to have some long term effects. Just wait for the smoke to clear. It will be nice.

Yeah, I'm with your sentiment mostly....I just think simpler language would have made things much simpler on everyone while still providing a superior level of rest than the old rules.

I've already forgot to sign that "fatigue statement"
Has anyone else? ASAP done.

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Originally Posted by joek (Post 1554142)

I've already forgot to sign that "fatigue statement"
Has anyone else? ASAP done.

How are airlines doing this?

Our airline has us each sign via an acars screen.

It's on our release. We got a email a few weeks ago that this

"statement must be signed. If not signed, it's a direct violation of FAR 117.5 (D)"

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Originally Posted by Singlecoil (Post 1552544)

After tonight I will have flown 35 hours in 7 days.

Not sure of your exact situation but it's very possible that you exceeded 60 hours on duty to get 35 flight hours. If so it's a FAR violation. There are a lot of aspects to the new rule however it's primarily a rest and duty based rule.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1554173)

Remember 117 started on the 4th his first few days did not count.

Your time is being

http://i.imgur.com/ltyA1iY.gif

So is the FAA violating everyone who's breaking the new rules or is there an unofficial "grace period" where you can screw up, learn your lesson, and move on? Knowing the FAA...I'm kind of afraid to ask

:confused:...If it didn't take the entire required rest period for me to figure out I'm legal for my next flight...Yes, 117 is working...

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Originally Posted by HeavyDriver (Post 1555138)

:confused:...If it didn't take the entire required rest period for me to figure out I'm legal for my next flight...Yes, 117 is working...

Hahahaha ^^^^^ this