I didn't realize that either... Asking a question means I'm going to go toss down a few thousand to get one? I was curious. As I've stated i haven't worked 121 before. I didn't know if you had your type once you were through training or not. The question was about logging time. Once again I'd like to have you read the original post i made. The last one didn't seem to drive that point home. As of right now your stupidity is hard to disregard.

 

I read your original post and I still think it is ridiculous but I guess I can't fault you for asking the question. But I have to wonder WHY you asked the question if you are not typed...

 

Well then, I guess you in your little CFI world has got every little facet of this career figured out already, eh?

Question for ou there Mr CFI. In all these years of you vast expereince of traveling the globe, how much actual use did you bag ACTUALLY get? Did it get dragged, opened up, unpacked, repacked, tossed in and out of baggage compartments, slammed into the back of the hotel van, ect on average of 15 days a month?

I guess I'll tell you again, I must be an idiot for spending that kind of money on a bag that is still going strong after 6+ years of airline flying.

I'm usually not the condescending type, but I'll give it a shot here. It's great that you are grunting it out an instructing and all. But guess what, myself and alot of other people have already been there, done that.

If you actually want an airline job, just wait. When your bag gets tossed in the back on dead heads and commuted or dragged across the ramp through snow, sand, glycol, whatever, see if it's still hanging in there.

Oops, I forgot, I'm talking to an expert who already knows everything about this career, even the little stuff. Sorry. Maybe next time I have a question about my career or how to bid, ect, I'll just ask you since you are so knowledgeable.

If you are considering buying a type, YOU ARE AN IDIOT, PERIOD. Sorry, that one is not up for debate.

 

Hey freezing - where does it say in part 91 you have to be rated to log PIC?

Airnet SIC's log PIC when they are sole manipulator of the controls. I would say yes, it is TECHNICALLY legal to log PIC if you have a PIC type in the plane and an ATP, however I doubt anyone of significance would allow you to count the time toward your 1000 TPIC requirement at the majors.

This is why you often see this statement below:
Thoughts?

 

Under part 91 if you are rated in the plane you can log the time as PIC. So if you were flying a Citation and had your type in the plane and ATP and the aircraft is operated in part 91 you can log it as PIC when you are the sole minipulator of the controls.

As for part 121 well no you can't. As was answered by some one else for the reasons why.

 

Seriously, point out the reg in part 91. I want to see a reference.

Added: There is nothing preventing a sole manipulator, as long as they are qualified in the aircraft, from logging the time spent actively flying the plane as PIC. You can do the same thing in part 135 (SIC's logging PIC). It's just not a generally accepted column of flight time.

 

I don't know where it is in there. I quit reading the FAR/AIM 7 years ago. Just something I remember from flight instructing and talking with people that are typed in a corporate aircraft that log time as both PIC and SIC.

Sorry for no hard facts. Let me have it!

 

Point being there is nothing in part 91. Freezing should have known it's actually in part 61. So is the bit about sole manipulator logging of PIC. It's legit, just not "kosher".

 

That is correct. It is part 61.51 (e) and 61.58.

 

Last time I checked a Baron doesn't require a type rating... Are the lears that airnet flies certified for single-pilot? I don't know. For sure they require a type rating to log PIC because they are turbojets, regardless of what part they are operated under.

Heres the reg Fosters. My apologies, its in part 61, not 91, sue me

61.51(e) Logging Pilot-in-Command Flight Time
(1) A sport, recreational, private or commercial pilot may log pilot-in-command time only for that flight time during which that person--
(i)is the sole manipulator of the controls for an aircraft which that person is rated or has priveleges;
(ii)is the sole occupant of the aircraft; or
(iii)is acting as pilot-in-command of an aircraft on which more than one pilot is required under the type certificate of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is conducted
(2) An airline transport pilot may log as pilot-in-command time all of the flight time while acting as pilot-in-command of an operation requiring a airline transport pilot certificate.