Nothing in writing, remember team TONY gave everything away in exchange for the free flow.

Thats the reason the company refuses to make any commitments on the CRJ's. Ask your rep.

 

We weren't fatigued tough guy, our work day already extended past regular hrs and 13 is what I have to work, I don't have to work more. Now get back under your cp's desk and keep sucking d***, you're doing weel.

 

You must not understand 117 as it stands, you are telling me the airlines can't build efficient schedules when most pilots are able to work 12-13 hrs, they only require 10:45 between block in and block out and the opportunity to get 8 hrs of sleep. Is that much to ask? And if you start earlier than 5 am then they only want you to work a max of a 10hr day, again is that asking much. The airlines can't build efficient schedules with that?

As far as negotiating it into the contract, you must not work at AE. We have a max duty day of 14 but it always got extended to FAR. Today we have FARs that allow you to decide wether to accept an extension, the new way of them to deal with this is to have you talked to chief pilot and if you turn down the extension they will give you a fatigue call that goes on your attendance record. How convenient. Eagle operates under the fly it and then grieve it or you will receive a miss assignment on your attendance record even if it's against your contract. Eagle has become one of the worse regionals to work for between the concessions, drama, threats, not being paid correctly and constant contract violations. They try to intimidate you and threaten you on a daily basis.

Management at eagle doesn't follow the contract, there are thousands of grievances against the company for 2013, just for 2013.

If you tell a crew scheduler that something is against the contract they will tell you, yup you can fly it and grieve it and if you say no here comes the CP direction you to do it and if you fail to you are nailed with insubordination.