Eagle and 117
01-11-2014 | 06:42 PM
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Eagle and 117
They suck, if we refuse to except to go past the 13 hrs, they consider it the same as fatigued (a little different) and we do not get paid for the remaining flying and whatever flying you miss from there.
01-12-2014 | 06:07 AM
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01-12-2014 | 07:24 AM
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01-12-2014 | 07:36 AM
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I am not a fan of the 117 rules. I much prefer more efficient trips that allow me to spend more time at home while being paid more. But these rules are now the law. If you need protections against the company abusing you, then negotiate them into your contract. Don't let the federal govt create arbitrary rules that are next to impossible to change.
If you don't want to go beyond that 13hrs because you are fatigued, why are you upset that the company is treating you as being fatigued?
01-12-2014 | 07:36 AM
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Company-Alpa, stated L-AE will be a 1 fleet operation. In this case an EMB operator. No protection for the CRJ side on the AIP/TA. expect them to go to either PSA or Piedmont since they are parking planes already.
Vote YES and the shrinking of L-AE will be slower.
Vote NO and the shrinking of L-AE will be faster.
More news about this when they make the BIG announcement for L-AE new Name.
Vote YES and the shrinking of L-AE will be slower.
Vote NO and the shrinking of L-AE will be faster.
More news about this when they make the BIG announcement for L-AE new Name.
01-12-2014 | 07:43 AM
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I don't doubt that we'll lose the CRJs but I haven't seen anything in writing about it. Maybe I just missed it.
as to the 13 hour thing, I believe that any extension past 13 hours must be accepted by the crew AND the company. There is also paperwork to be done justifying the extension. The rest rules are convoluted so I may have misinterpreted that, but thats how I understand it.
It's not a fatigue call.
as to the 13 hour thing, I believe that any extension past 13 hours must be accepted by the crew AND the company. There is also paperwork to be done justifying the extension. The rest rules are convoluted so I may have misinterpreted that, but thats how I understand it.
It's not a fatigue call.
