Pilot Shortage Video on WSJ Online:
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When it translates to dollars for us, then it will be here. Right now, management is holding back on pay increase. First option will be to shrink to fit. Once they can't shrink anymore, then I think the next step would be to increase pay. The first airline to do so will come out ahead.
The saying the management is using is "we must cut cost to be competitive." I'm hoping in the future the new saying will say "In exchange for operational efficiencies (co-domicile, dual type) we will offer a pay increase." This will combat the entry level of pay at the same time, increase their productivity. Our only saving grace will be the new rest rules. Then they won't be able to push us that hard. Time will tell...
The saying the management is using is "we must cut cost to be competitive." I'm hoping in the future the new saying will say "In exchange for operational efficiencies (co-domicile, dual type) we will offer a pay increase." This will combat the entry level of pay at the same time, increase their productivity. Our only saving grace will be the new rest rules. Then they won't be able to push us that hard. Time will tell...
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supply and demand! its show time!!
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Same here. I have ATP mins and would love to fly for the airlines if they paid. When starting IT salaries are 60-80k, and 3 years experience pays 80-100 why would I ever leave?
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Gave up the airline life for a regular job and would love to get back into it...but here's the key, I'm in a good career field making a decent salary with earning potential up into the $130k range without the need for additional promotions etc...not a lot of incentive to leave this industry despite my love of aviation.
If aviation was offering decent salaries, good retirements, and something that remotely resembled job security then I'd jump on it...what's odd is that it's a very "secure" job with very "insecure" companies...the world is going to need pilots until they either make the aircraft unmanned or develop a new form of transportation, but companies that operate so near the breaking point really doesn't allow this reality to prove true.
If aviation was offering decent salaries, good retirements, and something that remotely resembled job security then I'd jump on it...what's odd is that it's a very "secure" job with very "insecure" companies...the world is going to need pilots until they either make the aircraft unmanned or develop a new form of transportation, but companies that operate so near the breaking point really doesn't allow this reality to prove true.
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When it translates to dollars for us, then it will be here. Right now, management is holding back on pay increase. First option will be to shrink to fit. Once they can't shrink anymore, then I think the next step would be to increase pay. The first airline to do so will come out ahead.
The saying the management is using is "we must cut cost to be competitive." I'm hoping in the future the new saying will say "In exchange for operational efficiencies (co-domicile, dual type) we will offer a pay increase." This will combat the entry level of pay at the same time, increase their productivity. Our only saving grace will be the new rest rules. Then they won't be able to push us that hard. Time will tell...
The saying the management is using is "we must cut cost to be competitive." I'm hoping in the future the new saying will say "In exchange for operational efficiencies (co-domicile, dual type) we will offer a pay increase." This will combat the entry level of pay at the same time, increase their productivity. Our only saving grace will be the new rest rules. Then they won't be able to push us that hard. Time will tell...
^^^ Agree with the above, they will shrink and continue to reduce cost. They have already started by slowly getting rid of the 50 seaters 2:1 with 76 seaters. When it reaches the point that they start losing money on that process, then pay will go up. Meanwhile, the new rest rules will help prevent some of the abuse. This is setting up very well for the future. There's only one problem, our politicians can revert things when their flights home are being canceled and their communities are complaining about the lack or reduction of airline service. But, we shall see - says the blind man to the deaf man
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