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Old 02-24-2014 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jethikoki
Not going to get in p*ssing contest with your statement. Just provide any proof you have or take it to any local FISDO about any concerns you have about safety otherwise, shut the h*ll up!
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My bad, sorry. It's FSDO. You can look for them at the faa.gov website. Hope that helps but what case is proven?


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Old 02-24-2014 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jethikoki
My bad, sorry. It's FSDO. You can look for them at the faa.gov website. Hope that helps but what case is proven?
Help is on the way
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Old 02-24-2014 | 05:36 PM
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After reading this thread, I have no further objections to any statements made about regional pilots.
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Old 02-24-2014 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Of course they're safe. Everyone in Congress knows that with 1500 hours required there will NEVER be another regional aircraft accident.
Well I mean....there haven't been any regional accidents since 1500 went into effect....so I'd say it's pretty damn effective!

We should move to a 2500 hour rule so the unsafe pilots stay in the cessnas and pipers where they belong.
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Old 02-24-2014 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590
Well I mean....there haven't been any regional accidents since 1500 went into effect....so I'd say it's pretty damn effective!

We should move to a 2500 hour rule so the unsafe pilots stay in the cessnas.
By the way, can you recall how many incidents took place before the law went into effect???

Even during the times when those 250 hrs, wet ink commercial with temporary certificates, were being hired to fly in the right seat.....
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Old 02-24-2014 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jethikoki
From a Readers Digest article:
13+ Things Your Pilot Won't Tell You | Reader's Digest

Please write to Michelle Crouch the author of the article to explain and give evidence why regional pilots are not safe.

13+ Things Your Pilot Won't Tell You | Reader's Digest
I think it is a good thing that writers have started to write about the pilots perspectives on things.

The regional 1st yr FO's not being paid a liveable wage is a big concern and even with the new rest rules, 14 hrs of duty day, is still a long duty day. It should be reduced to 12 hrs of duty day followed by a 12 hr rest...

We should write to pretty much every journalist in the country so that more and more of the traveling public should read about this and it will help to generate a public opinion and may even put some pressure on the law makers who may make a minimum wage law for pilots...
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Old 02-24-2014 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bcpilot
By the way, can you recall how many incidents took place before the law went into effect???

Even during the times when those 250 hrs, wet ink commercial with temporary certificates, were being hired to fly in the right seat.....
Sure! Lots of them!

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/..._aviation.html

2009: Colgan 3407
2007: Pinnacle 4712, Shuttle America 6448
2006: Comair 5191
2004: Pinnacle 3701
2003: Air Midwest 5481
1997: Comair 3272
1996: United Express (Great Lakes) 5925
1995: ASA 529
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Old 02-24-2014 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bcpilot
By the way, can you recall how many incidents took place before the law went into effect???

Even during the times when those 250 hrs, wet ink commercial with temporary certificates, were being hired to fly in the right seat.....
I see that like Sheldon Cooper, you have trouble detecting sarcasm.
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Old 02-24-2014 | 07:45 PM
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I was having that thought last year while walking around my emb145 and saw the following:
A Delta MD80 touches down KCMH 10R abeam the Lane Aviation ramp and pulls max reverse all the way to the end while turning off at the 28L threshold. Dust and fod kicked up and sucked back into the engines. No CFR, just a slow taxi to the gate. I guess 10,113' is a bit short for the MD80?

Yeah, we are unsafe.
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Old 02-24-2014 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MD11
I was having that thought last year while walking around my emb145 and saw the following:
A Delta MD80 touches down KCMH 10R abeam the Lane Aviation ramp and pulls max reverse all the way to the end while turning off at the 28L threshold. Dust and fod kicked up and sucked back into the engines. No CFR, just a slow taxi to the gate. I guess 10,113' is a bit short for the MD80?

Yeah, we are unsafe.
By all means... keep promoting the regional model. The pay and workrules are just wonderful, and the companies treat their employees with dignity, respect, and provide extremely competent operations support... always.
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