Way to go guys. About time someone makes a stand. Sadly, many vultures are circling to pick up the flying.

 

Skyvector,

No one said this was going to be an easy road. And there will indeed be repercussions for us at L-AE. But the last time we voted yes, we were rewarded with 2 base closures, 2 fleet returns and a management team that wanted another bite at the apple. This was after the NDA fleet plan our previous union sold us which turned into fraking furlough protection.

I was originally going to vote yes, right up and until the MEC killed it. That was when republic stated they were parking 27 airplanes and taking a $20 million hit in revenue. I mean, that is a lot of money, and all because they couldn't find the pilots. That gave me some time to reflect.

This POS proposal was for 10 years. Was I really supposed to believe this management team when they stated that if the flow doesn't attract new hires, they'll work with our union to increase pay?

Was I supposed to believe a management team that had no teeth in a contract in case they broke our contract? SnapBacks? Penalties? Nothing. Not a single bit of recourse available us accept an aurgerous
court process that takes years to settle.

If they do indeed shut us down, as they promised the first time around, then they can explain the pilot shortage to the FAA and Congress. Remember these guys are trying to get the 1500 rule relaxed. And I do believe that they we're be honest the first time stating they were going to Comair us.

Best thing for us now is to pressure our union to help us get on at other carriers. Endeavor is offering interview prep and resume help. We should immediately start down that path.

 

No you are not, you are embraer. Same propaganda with now 2 screen names.

 

I agree buddy. The ball is fully in their court now.

But I wouldn't start dusting off the resume and talking about jobs at other carriers just yet. That may be premature. The best thing at this point is to let the chips fall where they may.

Eagle isn't going anywhere and I honestly believe that. Just look at how quickly the company distanced itself from Jerry "Commair II" Glass. There will be some short term pains. Let's work together to minimize them and ensure we do in fact get those long term gains.

 

They said they'd take their ball elsewhere if you voted it down.

Where? The other express carriers can't even do their current flying.

If you have a business model that depends on minimum wage pilots in order to succeed, you have a flawed business model.

 

Nicely done, guys. We at TSA are behind you as well.

 

Homerun. Not a single regional can find enough people to replace anyone's flying at this point. Anyone with 1500 hrs who wants a 121 job already has one. Bravo to Eagle and our generation of pilots for organizing grass roots unity even when our national "union" encourages us to undercut eachother. Bravo!

 

That's what YOU took from all this? I have always questioned your mod abilities, but now I am certain given this assinine statement, and the fact that you clearly overstepped your moderator bounds calling someone's posting city in public. You could have done it via PM with him. I disagree with him but I would NOT have used my power to stoop to that.

 

I never came to Eagle with the hopes of finishing my career here, nor being part of a flow. The company didn't completely back down from Jerry's statement. Just that we're going to shrink, and have no new aircraft. Using those words and our court filed return timeline for the 145's, it's best to be the first to divert, not the last. We, and our MEC should do everything to bolt and make the company convince us to stay. Am I worthy of this already concessionary contract or not?

 

I can see AA starting an alter ego airline, calling it Yes Jets and hiring all the spineless "yes men jellyfish" to fly on the cheap.