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SongMan 04-05-2014 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyTangoFox (Post 1617810)
Regional life with kids is tough, but what the guys are saying is correct. Quality of Life being based at home makes a difference. I was out stationed in my first turbo prop operator and hated the commute, I came to a bigger regional just for base and got the base in training as I was the oldest in the class. CDOs do work, I had them for three months now and I am home everyday and on my days off I pick up day trips to get me over 100 credit... But once again I am living at base makes it a lot easier.
I have two kids and a full time working wife, if that helps.

If you don't mind me asking, how old are your kids and what do they think of you being gone as a pilot?

Thank you

WhiskeyTangoFox 04-05-2014 09:56 PM

Regional and Family
 
Three year old and a four month old. Hard transition for the three year old but now that I am based at home she sees me more and I help out around the house with picking them up from daycare. It's definitely difficult to get use to for them. As rnav said with new technology Skype and FaceTime you can always talk to them and they can see you and chat.

ClarenceOver 04-05-2014 10:08 PM

If anybody can shed some light on how 117 has affected CDO's i would appreciate it.

bcpilot 04-05-2014 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by SongMan (Post 1617815)
OP here,

My intention or hope is to live in base. I am currently in San Francisco so I would prefer Skywest or Compass. I don't know of any other airlines based out of SFO, OAK, or SJC.

Thanks

Compass wants experience folks with pref 121 or 135 time.

SKW is your ONLY option if you live in NorCal...

For Skywest, Prepare, prepare & prepare... If you have done it 3 times, do it 3 more times again....

I can feel your pain, I live in NorCal and now will have to commute because I got turned down by skw.

Ultralight 04-05-2014 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by bcpilot (Post 1617822)
Compass wants experience folks with pref 121 or 135 time.

SKW is your ONLY option if you live in NorCal...

For Skywest, Prepare, prepare & prepare... If you have done it 3 times, do it 3 more times again....

I can feel your pain, I live in NorCal and now will have to commute because I got turned down by skw.

Compass wants experienced pilots with 121 or 135 time? Why's that, because they will probably have some money saved to pay for their accommodation during training?

Give it another 6 months and Compass will be grateful to get apps from anyone who meets ATP mins, just like all the other regionals.

MrMustache 04-06-2014 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1617832)
Compass wants experienced pilots with 121 or 135 time? Why's that, because they will probably have some money saved to pay for their accommodation during training?

Give it another 6 months and Compass will be grateful to get apps from anyone who meets ATP mins, just like all the other regionals.

That is false, they have hired a few instructors recently I've heard. The flow will happen again in 6 months with the need for 150-180 pilots like this year all over again, and people like quick movement. I am sure there will be plenty of apps, if what you say is true about only 121/135 guys , there are probably PLENTY of flight instructor/GA only people applying that haven't been looked at yet. I don't see an applicant shortage but I have no way of knowing that. Also OP Compass doesn't have a San Fran base so you would still be commuting to LAX.

Ultralight 04-06-2014 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by MrMustache (Post 1617860)
That is false, they have hired a few instructors recently I've heard. The flow will happen again in 6 months with the need for 150-180 pilots like this year all over again, and people like quick movement. I am sure there will be plenty of apps, if what you say is true about only 121/135 guys , there are probably PLENTY of flight instructor/GA only people applying that haven't been looked at yet. I don't see an applicant shortage but I have no way of knowing that. Also OP Compass doesn't have a San Fran base so you would still be commuting to LAX.

I was waiting for you to chime in and defend your precious Compass. Its a regional that pays dog crap and promises flows just like the rest of them.
I have plenty of 121 & 135 experience and would never send my app to a place that doesn't pay for accommodation during training, then offers $25 an hour. Someone with prior 121 experience deserves more than that don't you think?

Back to "song man's" question. You may get hired at an airline that has a base where you live and you may be assigned that base, eventually. In reality you'll be commuting to sit reserve in a crash pad at a junior base like JFK or ORD and you will be poor and miserable for the foreseeable future.

Its true that you have to look long term, but initially you will have to pay your dues, and for a guy with a young family the first year at any regional will be tough.

osuav8r 04-06-2014 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by SongMan (Post 1617801)
What is high speeds? and is it something 1st or 2nd yr FO can easily do?

Thanks

High speeds are generally where you fly somewhere, layover for a period of time which isn't long enough to be a full legal rest period, and then fly again (Usually really late arrival and a really early departure). I'm not fully up on the new rest regulations, but say that the minimum legal rest under the circumstances is 10 hours. If you only have 7hours off between flights, the company can't count it as a rest period at all.

So say your based in Chicago. You leave for La guardia at 10pm and get there at 12:30a. You stay there for 5 hours and then fly back to Chicago at 5:30am. You have a 5 hour sit at La Guardia, but it's not a legal rest period, so you're technically on duty the entire time from when you show for your trip in Chicago until you get back to Chicago and are off duty.

Some guys like this kind of schedule because they're free during the day and if you live in base, you're around for family stuff. I personally can't handle it and feel like I have the flu after I fly a redeye, so they don't work for me, but to each his own.

There are several terms for this type of flying.........High Speed, Stand up overnight, CDO (Continuous duty overnight), etc They all mean the same thing.

paxhauler85 04-06-2014 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1617924)
I was waiting for you to chime in and defend your precious Compass. Its a regional that pays dog crap and promises flows just like the rest of them.
I have plenty of 121 & 135 experience and would never send my app to a place that doesn't pay for accommodation during training, then offers $25 an hour. Someone with prior 121 experience deserves more than that don't you think?

Back to "song man's" question. You may get hired at an airline that has a base where you live and you may be assigned that base, eventually. In reality you'll be commuting to sit reserve in a crash pad at a junior base like JFK or ORD and you will be poor and miserable for the foreseeable future.

Its true that you have to look long term, but initially you will have to pay your dues, and for a guy with a young family the first year at any regional will be tough.

Besides Horizon, who has higher first year pay?

Your going to let $1000 worth of hotels stand between you and a job?

dash8 04-06-2014 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by Farmlover (Post 1617798)
Move into your base.


do not ever ever ever do this,

especially with a family, and double especially for a regional...


a large stable mainline carrier? maybe if you want to live in a large city, but definitely not for any regional carrier


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