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Originally Posted by WhiskeyTangoFox
(Post 1618046)
Very Well Said, I agree. I miss the Mighty Beech, great plane!
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Originally Posted by Counselor
(Post 1618023)
Can a regional pilot with a family who commutes realistically shoot for overnights in his/her hometown to offset those 4-days? Especially if the pilot lives in a smaller city that is served primarily or exclusively by regionals (KELP, KAMA, etc.)?
With the way legacies play the regional shuffle game, your company may do that city/overnight one month, it may get handed over to another carrier the next month. 117 comes into play a little bit, but even though the overnight is there, how long is the overnight? In other words, is that 10 hrs worth it? Especially if you're not that close to the airport. Now, it gets better. What if that 10-12-14 hour overnight at home ISN'T on a commutable trip? In other words, you have to give up a night at home and come in early, to spend a night at home, so it's a wash. Or worst case, have to come in a night before, and finish late and have to go home the next morning. Sure, you had a night at home, but it cost you two nights away from home to do it. This is real broad/big picture. Being an airline pilot means guess what? You WILL BE AWAY FROM HOME. It's in the brochure, it's ALWAYS been in the brochure. It's NOT even in the fine print. Yeah, we ALL know that legacy narrow body CA. Does day trips, home every night, works 3 days a week making 200K a year. Has a boat, sports car, takes exotic vacations. He WASN'T born into that job/seat, took him YEARS to get there. And along the lines of the regional world, what if his equipment gets realigned and NO LONGER does day trips anymore? Or due to a seasonal change, doesn't do those day trips anymore? What if he get's displaced off that equipment, or worse displaced out of base? |
I have been a airline pilot for 24 years. Flown for every type of airline. Flew inter island in Hawaii and fly internationally all over the world now.
Basically your love affair with aviation means giving up 50% of your life with those you love. There are exceptions of course. But plan on it and make sure your loved ones understand the sacrifice that all make. It's hard on the people you love. Make sure it's worth it to you. Remember when you look at your paycheck. Ask yourself was all that I have given worth it. I tell youngsters that aviation is not a career. It's a lifestyle choice. Only you can answer if it's the right lifestyle for you. |
Originally Posted by Really
(Post 1618040)
Songman, I'm coming up on 25 yrs at current job. Went from FO on a 1900 to current Capt on 737. I've gone through all gambits of this industry. 3 children (high school and college now) but, grew up with me doing this job. I ALWAYS lived in base which was not where I grew up.(So HAPPY I did that!) I aways stayed senior on equip (waited to upgrade!! Bid reserve in Dec so I could hold Christmas day off!!) since I wanted to see as many kids functions as I could!! And all this can be done IF you live within your means!!!!! Hard to do! A 747 Captain told me when I was at your stage ( I was a 1900 capt) you are probably living more within your means now than when you upgrade to 747 Capt. He was right!! Just remember, guys that get in trouble aren't the ones that don't earn enough, they're the ones that spend to much!! I just recently asked my kids if they hated me being gone 3-4 days a week!! They said not at all, since they haven't know anything different!! Hope this helps!! Good luck!
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Originally Posted by dash8
(Post 1617952)
do not ever ever ever do this,
especially with a family, and double especially for a regional... a large stable mainline carrier? maybe if you want to live in a large city, but definitely not for any regional carrier |
I am dealing with the same issues; I have a wife and two sons also. I flight instruct on the side just to get the time, and often tell myself that the if I ever get a regional job I will have more time at home commuting on reserve than I do now. So, that’s the biggest question. What are you doing now? Does it offer the pay and qol that you want? In my part of the country having a 6 figure goal is not considered “greedy”, but defiantly not obtainable on a 9-5er. Literally everyone I know who touches 6 figures or more can’t hold 9-5hours either through the nature of the job or they need the overtime to achieve the income. So for me, I’ve decided to continue on to the 121 world because I shift work now and won’t ever see 6 figures. I do think it’s the quality not quantity of time spent with your family. If that weren’t the case than all the unemployed and disabled would have the best family life. Just don’t ride the couch in front of the TV when you are home and you should be good.
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
(Post 1618001)
C5 does have a great first year pay rate, but it's also true that 2nd year is mediocre in comparison to a lot of RJ operations, and Capt pay, even with their raise, is still $15 less than RJ guys. There were two west coast commuters in my new hire class and one is now at SkyWest, and the other interviewed there, haven't talked to
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Originally Posted by GoIsotopes
(Post 1618625)
Keep justifying your LATERAL move to gojet mr tall flyer. Reality is that you have a severe case of SJS and can't wait to fly a something with slats. I hope for your sake that you keep your mouth shut and don't rat anyone out so your username doesn't end up written on half of the fleet like it has at your current employer.
Second, unlike some on here I've never hidden who I am. If you've met me, it's somewhat obvious based on my screen name. One is never as anonymous online as they think they are. Third, since you introduced yourself as a "Brazilian Wonder Jet FO" what gives you the right to call someone out for SJS? Are you going to find the other 25+ FOs who left C5 this year? Lastly, you know nothing of my reality and why I decided to move on. Let's just leave it at that. tl;dr..... Bite me. |
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Song dude,
I have a 3 year old and the wife. 10 years, 2 regionals, 1 LCC. 1.) Does your wife currently work? If not, she should. This business is way unpredictable, two different sources of income is the way to go. In addition to helping with first year pay (and 2nd and 3rd at a regional). 2.) When you are home (with this job), you are home. You don't have to worry about work once you leave the airport. In many ways you have lots of quality time at home. You could stay at home, or do whatever else, with your kids at 3-4 days at a time. I personally think getting things done for the wife is important with some of your time off also. And is in your best interest. 3.) What does your wife think about this? Your wife has seen the way that life has been (prior to regional life). If you start this job, most likely she will be comparing your current life with life prior to the way it is now. We have all heard stories about the wife seeing low pay and you gone all the time. 4.) Don't buy too much into this "Pilot Shortage" thing. There is only a shortage of qualified applicants willing to be paid what the regionals are offering. There will never be a "Pilot Shortage" at the Legacy Airline level. CNN might tell you otherwise though. Good luck man! |
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