I don't confuse marketing and image with the responsibility I have. (save my fanny and those flying with me while striving for safety, comfort, economy and convenience).I don't worry about crashing. I do risk analysis however rather than blunder around hoping things work out and that if they don't.. well, then I have the checklist.

Also, you might want to read about a few accidents where there were NO checklists to deal with the problem. United 232 comes to mind. The AirTransat A330 (flt 236) with its fuel leak. In the latter case, the checklist lead the crew to compound the problem, not solve it. Sometimes you have to *think* and know stuff rather than just pull out the QRH.

As for who I am, does it make any difference? You want some pecking order qualifier like hours, types, experience? Okay, lots, numerous and many. Suffice?

 

Pushing and arriving on time has little to do with perfection. There are too many variables OUTSIDE your professional control .. de-icing, late bags, ATC delays, holding, wx. I only try to control those things I can actually control.

The loosest definition of perfection is getting them there? As noted, most errors we capture or there are other barriers in place that tell us an error has been made (GWPS, ATC, policy/procedure, checklist, CRM, etc). But that does not preclude us from making errors. And by any definition, an error (the outcome is not the planned outcome), means that one has not achieved perfection.

Yes, these guys erred and they paid dearly, one dieing and the other losing a leg and probably living the rest of his life replaying the events up to the point of impact over and over and over again in his mind. I know a few guys who have been in crashes and they didn't just walk away and forget it. It is a constant weight they carry.

Risk analysis. We agree. HMP doesn't. (do not pronounce the abbreviation as HUMP, please!). She is an altruist with a checklist. And yes, no one is paid to make errors and no one intentionally errs. That is what is called a "violation", a willful deviation from expected norms.

As for pay, it again has nothing to do with anything except what is *negotiated*. Granted, in distant times of old, pay was tied to number of factors including speed, weight, day, night, international, duty time, butts on board (727 paid more than a DC-9 and the -8 paid more than either and the Seven Four paid a lot more than any of them) but in recent years, we have seen that paradigm destroyed. In fact, the guys taking home the most GREEN don't have a single butt in the cabin.. they are hauling boxes.

In the good years, I saw my compensation almost double. In the bad years I saw it more than halved. Some years we got the bear... lately the bear has been eatin' our lunch and handing us our collective *sses. It happens.

 

Yeah, I wasn't actually getting into the whole RJ pilots are inferior debate. I was just kind of making a general statement. Everyone seems shocked that because this fella is injured that the legal system would lay off, then someone makes the statement that the jet took off from the wrong runway. Jets don't take off, pilots do.

I agree with you there is way to much BS between pilot groups here. A little too much all for one all for me.

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Are you kidding?

 

Like that has something to do with it. That statement could be viewed as slander. Cause Lord knows, thats the way they do it down in S. Florida. LAfrequentflyer's post will start a whole new worthless thread.

 

Not at all. I remember reading that he trained there just wanted to see if that was verified or not. You can't trust the media. Anyone know?

 

i never said that rj pilots are inferior

 

In some countries he would be in prison. A lawyer will defend him pro bono for the publicity on Court TV. Even if the court hands down an award to the families I doubt he will ever have to pay a penny. Look at O.J.... He hasn't paid a cent. Yes, it sucks he may be heading to court but it could be worse.