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12-27-2006 | 02:21 PM
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You don't need law school to become a lawyer (depending on the state). Just head down to your local library and study up, then take the Bar exam, and your set onto a career as a lawyer.
On a side note, dont both ERAU and ATP get reduced minimums at certain Regionals???
On a side note, dont both ERAU and ATP get reduced minimums at certain Regionals???
12-27-2006 | 02:44 PM
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My thoughts exactly. I'll admit my aviation degree had too much junk I didn't like. However it was a great university. Beautiful women, fun night life, good baseball team to cheer for, beautiful campus, ect. Most universities are full of fluff however. All the british lit., American Constitutional developments, religion classes, ect. dont really help many out. But it's the diversity of knowledge and the fact that you were able to handle the workload and flex the mental muscle that pays off in the long run. Those things you don't get from ERAU
Reading books is great but it can't really engage you in a dialog like a lecture or classroom setting can. The dumbening of America continues...Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it - Santayana
12-27-2006 | 02:49 PM
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Originally Posted by NE_Pilot
On a side note, dont both ERAU and ATP get reduced minimums at certain Regionals???
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12-27-2006 | 03:12 PM
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Yeah, fluff like history, philospophy, political science, "Constitutional Developments"... Who needs to know that useless stuff? Reading books is great but it can't really engage you in a dialog like a lecture or classroom setting can. The dumbening of America continues...
Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it - Santayana
Reading books is great but it can't really engage you in a dialog like a lecture or classroom setting can. The dumbening of America continues...Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it - Santayana
Can you tell me what is required to amend the constitution? When was the declaration of ind. written? Who wrote it? How many reasons were in it?
I didn't say they weren't needed. I said they were because they caused you to diversify and "flex" your mental muscel. To get you to think on different levels. To debate, work in groups, get use to working hard for something only to fail at it ect. But I've never met a professor that was ignorant enough to believe you'd retain all the things you were learning in his class. There is a reason why those are basic classes. To help students find where their strenghts and passions lie.
(Since you made a qoute to sound smarter I'll pick an equaly well known and easy one myself)
History is written by the victorious, the liars, the strongest, the most determined. Truth is found most often in the silence, in the quiet places.
-- Kate Mosse
The dumbening of America continues...
PS. Santayana who you copied the quote from declined citizenship in America and lived in fascist Italy for 20yrs where he was a big supporter of fascism... big supporters of the Nazi's. Just a little FYI there
12-27-2006 | 06:48 PM
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For the most part, yes- they hangar the fleet at the end of the day, however there is also a procedure for an "all hands" ramp clearing. This procedure is used in the summer time when large thunderstorms (level 4/5+) popup and head towards the airport.
At any given time there are at least two full time ramp staff and usually two or three student employees working the ramp (two fuel trucks, one tug, one doing other odd jobs such as aircraft/hangar cleaning).
During an all hands, all of the ramp staff operate tugs (there used to be 4), and the extra person coordinates the "stacking" of the hangars. All of the flight instructors and airport admin staff are requested via the PA system to help clear the ramp using good old fashion foot power and towbars.
I've seen the entire fleet brought under cover during an "all hands" in about 15 minutes (~70 aircraft- since about 10-15 are in MX at any given time). Its a rare occurrance, but it's entirely possible if you have the procedures, hangar space, and motivated students/employees/flight instructors.
It's also worth noting that the hangar facilities at UND aren't your typical aluminum and I beam structures like you see elsewhere in the country (like the ERAU one that came down based on photos). Instead, they are preformed concrete and I beam structures (except for the "Barn"). They are quite beefy- I don't know if they would stand up to an F2 tornado, but I'd give them more of a chance than other airport structures...
At any given time there are at least two full time ramp staff and usually two or three student employees working the ramp (two fuel trucks, one tug, one doing other odd jobs such as aircraft/hangar cleaning).
During an all hands, all of the ramp staff operate tugs (there used to be 4), and the extra person coordinates the "stacking" of the hangars. All of the flight instructors and airport admin staff are requested via the PA system to help clear the ramp using good old fashion foot power and towbars.
I've seen the entire fleet brought under cover during an "all hands" in about 15 minutes (~70 aircraft- since about 10-15 are in MX at any given time). Its a rare occurrance, but it's entirely possible if you have the procedures, hangar space, and motivated students/employees/flight instructors.
It's also worth noting that the hangar facilities at UND aren't your typical aluminum and I beam structures like you see elsewhere in the country (like the ERAU one that came down based on photos). Instead, they are preformed concrete and I beam structures (except for the "Barn"). They are quite beefy- I don't know if they would stand up to an F2 tornado, but I'd give them more of a chance than other airport structures...
12-27-2006 | 07:41 PM
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People have done it, all you need to do is crack a book, it can't be that hard, its only law.........................
Yea I thought I heard something about reduced mins, just not sure what it was. As for ERAU students, I can't really comment, I have met maybe 5 at the most, but none of them seemed like the types described here.
They do have agreements TO INTERVIEW at reudced minimums. They also graduate some of the most single-faceted, narrow minded individuals. Not to say UND doesn't have its fair share of prop heads. But UND's largest major isn't aviation so it's hard not to get involved in some of the other groups out there (like the teachers and the nurses )
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Yea I thought I heard something about reduced mins, just not sure what it was. As for ERAU students, I can't really comment, I have met maybe 5 at the most, but none of them seemed like the types described here.
12-27-2006 | 08:38 PM
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Yeah, good luck with that...
They do have agreements TO INTERVIEW at reudced minimums. They also graduate some of the most single-faceted, narrow minded individuals. Not to say UND doesn't have its fair share of prop heads. But UND's largest major isn't aviation so it's hard not to get involved in some of the other groups out there (like the teachers and the nurses )
They do have agreements TO INTERVIEW at reudced minimums. They also graduate some of the most single-faceted, narrow minded individuals. Not to say UND doesn't have its fair share of prop heads. But UND's largest major isn't aviation so it's hard not to get involved in some of the other groups out there (like the teachers and the nurses
)yep I'm not sure the exact amount of airlines though
12-28-2006 | 07:28 AM
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Don't know about ERAU, but UND currently has reduced minimums/preferential interviewing agreements with several companies. Many of them come to campus to conduct interviews with students and graduates, including:
Piedmont (500 TT & 50 ME)
Horizon (BS in Aviation 750 TT/50 ME/150 PIC)
American Eagle (500TT and 100 ME)
ASA (on campus interviews)
Commutair (900TT and 100 ME)
Pinnacle (1000TT/200 ME/100 Instrument)
They have also had agreements (in the past) with:
ACA/Independence Air (600/100)
Mesaba (600/100)
Comair (600/100)
Great Lakes (400/50)
Big Sky
As well as interships (some of them flying positions) with several companies including Walmart, Basin Electric, Marvin Windows, ASTAR, UAL, Alaska.
I imagine that most other schools with major aviation programs have similar agreements with a wide variety of companies.
Piedmont (500 TT & 50 ME)
Horizon (BS in Aviation 750 TT/50 ME/150 PIC)
American Eagle (500TT and 100 ME)
ASA (on campus interviews)
Commutair (900TT and 100 ME)
Pinnacle (1000TT/200 ME/100 Instrument)
They have also had agreements (in the past) with:
ACA/Independence Air (600/100)
Mesaba (600/100)
Comair (600/100)
Great Lakes (400/50)
Big Sky
As well as interships (some of them flying positions) with several companies including Walmart, Basin Electric, Marvin Windows, ASTAR, UAL, Alaska.
I imagine that most other schools with major aviation programs have similar agreements with a wide variety of companies.
12-28-2006 | 08:27 AM
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12-28-2006 | 09:04 AM
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True, but the Horizon CP is a UND graduate, which probably bodes rather well from them. There certainly are more than a handful of grads that work for both companies, particularly Horizon.
Flying internships with Cirrus, Basin Electric, Marvin Windows, two local 135 operators as well as a ND car dealership...
Strong aviation employment ties are IMHO, the primary reason why a prospective student should consider any aviation school.
Flying internships with Cirrus, Basin Electric, Marvin Windows, two local 135 operators as well as a ND car dealership...
Strong aviation employment ties are IMHO, the primary reason why a prospective student should consider any aviation school.
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